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Old July 9th, 2005, 09:29 PM
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Default Re: Interesting Site: Wheeled vs. Tracked AFV (US

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2mil for OHWS and C4I...Rafael makes much better and much cheaper systems,There is a M113 version with 2x7.62mm and one 12.7mm OWS.
Oh please, you're such an authority on judging these types of systems are you Mr "In everything, they are more versatile"?



1; If you think FAS is a good reliable source you're kidding yourself. To much crap has snuck in and noone has seriously maintained the site for years. Why don't you quote Wikipedia or something next, huh?

2; They guy claiming that the applique armour on that M113 stops Milan doesn't know what he's talking about. Exact specifications of the armour are ofcourse classified to begin with...

A hint can however be taken from the fact that USMC uses a version (imported from Israel) as an applique addon on LVTP-7's (the EAAK kit).

Against HEAT it is described as having following effectiveness;

"(it)Substantially decreases the effectiveness of shape charge weapons by reducing the fragmentation debris cone from 110° to 35°"

This is not "immunity"...

In AAR's it seems to be barely sufficient vs PG-7/7M against which is has failed completely at least once resulting in a total loss. Total number of hits, or data on penetrations failing to destroy the vehicle I haven't got, but I assume the vehicle should be relatively resistant to the damage due to its sheer size (overpressure and heat causing fire is less of a problem), giving a statistical probability of several more penetrations.

This all suggest even early Milan would eat it for lunch...


Amazing...

It was a pleasure not communicating with you.

Bye bye now, and welcome to my ignore list, because to be honest you bore me and isn't worth further effort.

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