Setting up an Ettin?

[Frostmourne27]

Juzza said:
Easiest nation to do it with is pangera (sp?)

Mictlan is probably easier - Priest Kings can cast it, and Mictlan will put more emphasis on blood research. If you are willing to try repeatedly, you don't need improved crossbreeding, but it helps alot. Of course, Mictlan has other units to equip first, and has a harder time with the requisite Gift of Reason, so it's probably about the same. Any blood nation can manage it in the end.