Due to a minor yet unexpected hardware problem, my vacation from SE4 must start a little early (read yesterday). Sorry for the inconvenience. I will try to get one more turn in by downloading the turns onto disk from the public library, and taking them home to play, then bring the .plr files back to the library to upload. If I don't get caught, it should work. (as some of you may recall, my library is a bit anal about their computers. "no games, no chatting", and they consider this board to be chatting )