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Old March 14th, 2015, 12:16 PM

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Default Belgium OOB27 v.2014 suggestions

Several suggestions as for Belgian OOB, for eventual future use (don't shoot at me ):


04 ACG-I - CMG was in fact 7.65mm Hotchkiss (according to Histoire de Guerre no.084 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMC_35 "Older sources incorrectly claim that a 13.2 mm Hotchkiss machine gun was fitted.")

Apart from the first tank, tested in 1937 and then returned to factory, first batch was sent to Belgium on 30 March 1939 (now available from 1/38) [Histoire de Guerre no.084]. Changes would demand extending a span of units 200-201 to keep a formation.

19 4.2in Mortars - picture is generic medium Soviet 82 mm; British OOB uses 1191

40 75mm Krupps FG,
57 75mm Battery
- I'm attaching pictures of Belgian 75mm guns instead of generic ones.
There were two types used: older TR with a range of 9.9 km (agrees with a range 200 of weapon #33), and slightly newer GP guns (in three versions), with a range 11 km: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon_de_75_mle_TR , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon_de_75_mle_GP1 , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon_de_75_mle_GP_II , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon_de_75_mle_GP_III (text copied there from Chamberlain, Peter & Gander, Terry. "Light and Medium Field Artillery", 1975, from which I attach scans)

Same for units 270, 272, 274


66 Rolls Royce A/C,
90 Laffly 80 AM
- Belgium didn't use any armoured cars before the war apart from WWI-vintage Minerva AM used until mid-30s and 4x4 Berliet VUDB, used in 1930-33, then given to Gendarmerie - see http://mailer.fsu.edu/~akirk/tanks/bel/Belgium.htm and Russian pages http://aviarmor.net/tww2/armored_cars/belg/minerva.htm and http://aviarmor.net/tww2/armored_car...rliet_vudb.htm
Reportedly at least one Berliet fought in the campaign. Armament was 2 LMGs, without a turret. The same unit could be added to France

If we'd like to create Minerva, Polish #563 Peugot M1918 would be a very good pattern, rearmed with 8mm Hotchkiss


200,201 FT-17M,C - drawings could be replaced with 2156/2020 photos, like in units 001,002

211 Citroen-K P17 - Belgians used mainly FN-Kegresse http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FN-K%C3%A9gresse_3T http://www.webcitation.org/67h088bjE

213 155mm Field Gun - it should be either armed with long-barrel canon (Belgium used Canon de 155 L mle 1924, 17km range and Canon de 155 L mle 1917, 17.3km range - http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=151322 ), with changed photo, or it should be named howitzer, with a short-barrel icon (eg.2116)

219 Ford 1ton Truck - picture is US 6x6 Dodge, better for pre-war era is eg. 20512 (GAZ or Ford)

240 AOP Field Car - instead of armoured truck, more appropriate pic for an old field car seems 27596 or 19686
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