It is important to be watchful of the the words written into the references used in equipment. I see a growing excitement over certain Russian equipment in this case the
T-15 ARMATA APC/IFV. The words that seem to be passed over by some readers in these refs posted are
"...based upon..." which by definition is the same
"as modified from" etc. etc. The most obvious difference between the T-15 and the
T-14 ARMATA MBT is in the engine placement which is front mounted on the T-15 and rear mounted on the T-14 MBT. There will be armor differences as well which are well covered in what we have already available to us on the web. It should be further noted that the T-15
WILL NOT be the main APC/IFV of the Russian Army but will be used instead by more specialized troops. That distinction will fall to the
Kurganets-25 and our "old friend" the Boomerang, now more clearly defined as the
BUMERANG K-16 APC and K-17 IFV. This discussion would also cover Israels
NAMER. Which is about to receive in typical Israeli secretive fashion, a new companion APC/IFV, the
EITAN 8x8 which is a major departure from it's normal "tracked armor" frame of mind. They've successfully kept this vehicle "under wraps" obviously for sometime. From what I have thus far, we
could be looking at one of, if not, the most advanced and protected APC's out there. Again look at the embolden word in the last sentence. The JANE'S ref I believe was the first to note the
EITAN which is included below.
http://www.armyrecognition.com/march...g_vehicle.html
http://www.armyrecognition.com/russi...res_video.html
http://www.armyrecognition.com/augus..._10208162.html
http://www.janes.com/article/62755/i...st-wheeled-apc
http://www.defence24.com/423491,eita...in-advantages#
It would be my hope that we "slow down" just a bit and let the information flow. There is enough equipment that is out there
NOW that we don't even have in the game or for that matter has even appeared in any of the threads as of yet.
Trust me I have many files on my system to cover the above. All I'll say is "
when I can I will" I just can't do it now and it kills me to know this could be my third year that I probably can't submit to the Patch Thread even if only to be a PITA to Don.
I just feel sometimes we're rushing ahead to meet "
certain expectations" only to find as we've discovered not that many years ago, we had to clean up the OOB's of equipment that never got off the ground for various reasons, or were
only prototypes or test bed platforms. And if "
properly" entered and fielded, we had to modify them in light of newer and better information because they just weren't that "
battlefield game changer" everyone thought they'd be when put to the test or they were used beyond "kicking the tires".
Every new car you'd like to buy looks
REAL GOOD until you've owned it for awhile, it's the one you don't like quite as much but are wondering about none the less, that'll more then likely be the better car for you. We would call that a "
gut feeling" too often ignored with regrets later.
Do you understand where I'm trying to come from here?
Ask yourself why I used the above, from a job I disliked due to industry practices after I retired, but if there's enough of you "
it looks REAL GOOD" people out here, just maybe I should reconsider-so I paraphrase-
Want to buy a car? 
!!!
Yep-Still Tracking this equipment and development in my own way.
Regards,
Pat
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