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January 18th, 2001, 08:17 PM
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Re: Kind of off topic, yet not.
In all seriousness, while I think the guy is overreacting, he does have some good points. In many cases 4X games have too much micromanagement to appeal to a large audience. If this guy thinks that he can make a 4X game that will appeal to the general public and still get us electronic Grognards to play it, then more power to him. I'd love to see a grand strategy game with simple controls and no micromanagement. Star General and Spaceward Ho were pretty good attempts in that direction, so was Star Control 1 (which to date had the third best galactic map in any sci-fi game I've ever played, right behind Mankind and Ascendency).
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January 18th, 2001, 09:12 PM
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Re: Kind of off topic, yet not.
Well maybe the guy doesn't realize that it takes a little more intelligence to play these games than it does to play those reaction fest-Doom clones. Nothing wrong with those games, they can be quite fun, but they just do not require an appreciable amount of planning or forethought, especially when playing them Online. This sort of intelligence-required gaming actually appeals to some (many) people, and yes they require attention to detail. If this guy doesn't like it, then why the hell does he play these games and then whine about them? Running a government/empire does actually take a lot of time and effort, whether he believes it or not. I imagine his game will probably eliminate the areas we desperately want to control, and replace other areas with rather inadequate AI control.
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January 18th, 2001, 11:43 PM
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Re: Kind of off topic, yet not.
Just call me ignorant, guys, but what is the "attention span of an iguana"? Is it short or long? How do you know? If it's long, are there any iguanas w/A.D.D.? And if so, what's being done to help them? Ridlin? Therapy?
There are very few iguanas in NorthEast Texas so my knowledge of the reptile is somewhat limited. We do have Bullfrogs. But, alas, I am not privy to the length of their attention span. But I digress....
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January 19th, 2001, 12:23 AM
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Private
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Re: Kind of off topic, yet not.
The attention span of an Iguana is highly variable.
It is usually about 20 seconds unless it sees somthing that might potentially be a meal, the it can extent to days as it contemplates if the object of its desire is indeed edible, and can it be caught.
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January 19th, 2001, 01:10 AM
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Re: Kind of off topic, yet not.
Actually, he makes a few good points, especially regarding micromanagement. The more "stuff" a game has, the more like work it becomes (for me, anyway).
Has anyone here played Spaceward Ho! 4? I recently reinstalled my copy and have been having a bLast! It reduces 4X games to the bare minimum, but I like it because it plays quickly and smoothly.
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January 19th, 2001, 01:14 AM
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Re: Kind of off topic, yet not.
Some of the greatest military minds,like Napoleon Bonaparte,were great micro managers!
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January 19th, 2001, 01:21 AM
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Re: Kind of off topic, yet not.
I personally like the mircomanagment. it allows for a lot of roleplaying and adds something more then just built a force and kill everybody.
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