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Old May 25th, 2003, 06:10 AM
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We are slaves, Fyron, a new kind of slave that work for 8 hours a day and get 4 weeks of vacation.
Four weeks? FOUR WEEEKS?!?!?!!

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"ATARI_HULK ONLY GET TWO WEEKS! RRRARGH!"


I can offer my depressing philosophy to this, but the Last time I did this I ruined the mood.

But what the hell, your right, you are all slaves, and allow me to tell you why.

You work at an unfulfilling job day after day, for just enough money to support your current needs, never earning enough to break free of the cycle that has become your mondain lives. When you think your ahead, it is but an illusion and one that is often more than not, short lived. You spend your lives stuck in this rut, oblivious to the fact that despite your best efforts, you may never escape it. And in the end, you will look back upon your life, and say to yourself 'gee, I wish I could have done more, played harder, lived life to its fullest, and spent more time with my family. Because in the end, that job that you have devoted your life to will can your *** without so much as a 'good job' leaving you to sit at you home, leased by for life, or as long as you can aford to pay the property tax, reflecting back upon your life and come to understand, that now, and only now in the twilight of it all, nothing really matters, and in a hundred years, all that you thought was important will have faded off into the dust leaving no trace of you or your accomplishments. In the end we all die, and on our journey to meet our faits, we all will learn things, and one can only hope that one of lessons of life will be that family matters, our children matter, our happyness matters, and being a slave to some coorperation for thirty or fourty years matters NOT. Live your life, not the life of a slave, but the life that you choose to live. And hopefuly in the end you can look back upon it all and know that you were not a slave to any one or anything. And then again we can dream can't we?
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i saw it as well.

The comment about swearing in french was funny.

And the chase was ummmmm..... fantastic..... as was the smith thing.

Funny I did not really like the first movie.... But I liked the second one.
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Funny I did not really like the first movie.... But I liked the second one.
Hehe, I'm exactly the oposite, I didn't like the second one, but I love the first one.

What I didn't like in Matrix Reloaded:

1- Martial arts.
It was lame. Unlike in the first movie in which a very careful work was done, in this one there were some mistakes, it felt like opera, like choreography. Most hits were not concentrated at the contact point, tecnique was poor, especially in the lower train (legs position) while doing upper train hits. (you can see this in Neo's fight with the program protecting the Oracle). Neo's and Morpheous's styles were good looking, but failed to concentrate their hits. Most other styles were rather poor.

2-Computer Animation.
This one was the movie killer for me. Computer Generated characters were use in close up takes, showing openly that they were not real. The worst scene was the fight between Neo and Agent Smith. about half way into the scene Neo becomes a CG character, and it pushed me completely out of the movie, it was so awful that it felt like there was somebody else fighting in there! Also of notice is the scene of Neo flying. I wonder why they dare to use CG characters in close ups. That brakes completely with the principle of special effects of trying to make believe the audience that its real. On the other hand, the free way scene have a many CG cars and trucks, and with the exception of the 2 trucks that crash at the end, you can't tell which one is real and which one is not. This is because unanimated objects can be made very crediable with computers, but living things, especially humans, can not. They didn't even use photo mapping like in Lords of the Rings with the Gollum character. Basicly, the effectes were not bad, but they were poorly used, so the blame is completely on the Wachoski brothers, not the companies making the effects.

3- The message.
The anti-media, anti corporative message is still there, but it took me 2 times watching the movie to see it. Why? Because now their message is hidden below an extra layer of misiformation. Because now the Matrix is a major movie, part of the stablishment, a big buck maker, unlike the first one, that was a risky uber-indie filmed in Australia and an unexpected box office hit. Still, you can dig out the message by the names of characters, ships, the city, by some lines said mostly by supporting characters (unlike in the first one) and by many visual clues, which is actually an improvement from the first one, in which most info was spoken by the main characters.

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hm?

Reloaded gave a lot of bang for the buck; but somehow I ended up more interested in X2. Different stories/genres/whatever, perhaps, but for some reason there was more heart in X2. Did anyone notice after a while that the outlaw programs/Smith/whoever began emoting more than the humans did? Interesting contrast.

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Matrix Reloaded..
*Rollo yawns.

I can't make up my mind whether it was more boring or silly. At any rate it was both.

The first one was groundbreaking. This one is just bad.

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Well, its hard not to see Messages in movies these days. I did got a bit miff at the slam against Bush jr. There was a montague of evil pictures of our history, and right after a large picture of Hitler, there was a large one of Bush jr. It is one thing to disagree with someone, but it is quite another to compare Bush to Hitler (of course that is how I take it, and once again I am biased).

As someone else said, X2 was better.

Oh, that new Sean Connery movie looks great, the League of Extordanry Gentlemen. Is that a spin-off of something else, reminded me of the old Avengers.
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