Treaties..... whats the point?

Prophet-PBW · #1 January 17th, 2003, 07:56 PM

I know what you're saying, couslee. I never understood why certain races hated me only when they were my ALLIES! Made no sense. It got to the point where I would have to ignore those races because I did not want to see-saw between treaties.

But it doesn't happen all the time. In my current game, I have 3 Partnerships, 1 Military Alliance, and 2 Trade Treaties.

I like to roleplay SE4. That makes AI Politics important. I'd like to see SOMEONE (MM or a modder) make a AI-Update Patch for the stock races.

Prophet

Phoenix-D · #2 January 17th, 2003, 09:12 PM

"I like to roleplay SE4. That makes AI Politics important. I'd like to see SOMEONE (MM or a modder) make a AI-Update Patch for the stock races."

TDM Modpack has several enchanced AI races. Playing a TDM game right now, and the Eee for example have been treaty partners for a long time and are still friendly. Then I went to war, they got pissed..now we're still at war but they're friendly again! (I haven't attacked in a while)

Oddly enough they haven't offered a peace treaty.

Phoenix-D

Dobian · #3 January 17th, 2003, 09:25 PM

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Originally posted by Phoenix-D:
Then I went to war, they got pissed..now we're still at war but they're friendly again! (I haven't attacked in a while)

Oddly enough they haven't offered a peace treaty.

Phoenix-D

Are you MEE? I thought it was ridiculous that aliens would be brotherly toward me but wouldn't make peace, until I found out it was because I was MEE.

b00tch · #4 January 17th, 2003, 09:34 PM

Perhaps the AI's you encoutered were Xenophobes? The Nuetrals I tend to encounter tend to be Neutral and Xenophobic, meaning they like to be left alone and not bothered. So it would make somewhat sense that they were warm to you since you hadn't contacted them or bothered them, they accepted your trade alliance since they had a want for the bonus resources they would get, and are now displeased since they had to be bothered. It is a stretch but possible perhaps?

If they weren't neutral, perhaps only when you established a Trade Alliance did one of your diplomatic representatives let slip that your empire spanned 20 systems and resided on planets just like the AI's homeworld...

Anyway, just a thought.

- b00tch

Phoenix-D · #5 January 17th, 2003, 09:39 PM

No, score-wise I'm in third place. Mainly because I'm builing lots of ships but then loosing them. (I took -25% Defensiveness)

Phoenix-D

Arkcon · #6 January 17th, 2003, 09:39 PM

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Originally posted by Prophet-PBW:
I never understood why certain races hated me only when they were my ALLIES! Made no sense.

Simple. Trade alliance let them past your sats on warp points. Military alliance let them refuel and explore. Partnership gave them vision.

End result ... they saw what you have, and got jealous.

I never go above trade and research with an AI. There's more in it for them than for me. On PBW, I actually ask people -- "You want a military alliance -- OK. How are we aligning our military, and against who?"

I could stand some more official treaty types -- short duration research, 10 turn duration refueling treaty, 1 turn line of sight.

[ January 17, 2003, 19:41: Message edited by: Arkcon ]

Sinapus · #7 January 18th, 2003, 12:05 AM

I tend to avoid treaties unless it's a neutral race for one reason:

The AI uses treaties as an excuse to settle planets in system's I've already claimed. If there's a flag I can set to make the more peaceful races respect my borders, I'll enter into a treaty. But until then, they can keep running into my minefields.