Difficulty and AI Bonus Settings

lwmweb · #1 January 26th, 2001, 07:58 PM

Sorry I was referring to the non Neutral races.

raynor · #2 January 26th, 2001, 09:03 PM

FYI:

I started up a game at max bonus and changed all the AI races to human control. The first AI race had a homeworld outputing 3500 research points per turn. Next, I looked to see if he started with any new techs. He did *not*. But he had 17,500 research points every turn to spend! I verified this with a couple of races. Yep, at max bonus the AI definitely gets to spend 5x whatever his colonies produce.

With that much research coming in, it doesn't take long for the AI to research all the colonization techs.

I started up a max everything game. Right now, it is turn 88, and I'm in 6th place. I'm generating a paltry 36,100 research points per turn from my 12 planets while the Eee Consortium in first place is pulling in 129,500 per turn from his 70 planets.

But the Eee actually get to spend 650,000 per turn!!!

In all my games playing with no bonus, I never came close to amassing that many research points.

All I can say, is I'm glad I haven't met up with them yet. They are also generating 13,000 intel points per turn. If they get to spend 5x that amount, I just don't want to meet them.

One Last interesting point. The Eee are generating 190.4K resources per turn compared to my 32.7K. Here's the real tragedy. Fully HALF of my resource production is from a 20% trade treaty with the #2 player who I'm bending over backwards to please. Ouch! I just realized I probably have a research treaty with him too. I guess that means half my research points are from him too. H-E-L-P!

Thank goodness for Ship Capture. Christmas came early when I captured an Ice colony ship carrying Methane breathers and a Gas Colony carrying Carbon Dioxide breathers. I didn't even have to leave home. They came right to my door! Hurrah, hurrah!

Wish me luck.

raynor · #3 January 26th, 2001, 09:12 PM

Regarding the use of mines...

A lot of folks may voluntarily restrict themselves from building mines at lower bonus levels. But at max bonus, it ain't cheating. I just saw a battlecruiser loaded with Mine Sweeper III's clean up a pretty fair sized mine field... (Remember, this isn't even turn 90 yet)

DirectorTsaarx · #4 January 26th, 2001, 09:43 PM

Sounds like MY current game... except I started with low computer bonus, so maybe it's only 2x computer resource generation. But still, there are three races that have just grown like crazy! 120+ colonies each, etc.

And I had a similar problem to yours early on: I had TWO T&R alliances, and was getting well over half of my resources and research from the trade. Even more important, my own production was not enough to pay my maintenance - so I was in a bit of trouble when the alliances went south. Fortunately, I had a LOT of resource storage built up, so I survived until my new colonies could pick up the resource generation slack (and two remote mining battlestations helped too: net gain of 11kT minerals each per turn!).

Wisdom · #5 January 26th, 2001, 10:16 PM

Holy cow!

The High bonus gives the AI 5x production levels? That's insane.

Well thanks for the feedback. I'll be curious to know how your game goes. I cant imagine you have a snowball's chance unless the AI is really REALLY bad at making tactical decisions. Because strategically, you are LONG dead but just dont know it yet.

So High bonus is 5x. Is medium bonus 3x? and Low 2x? Anyone know?

Wisdom

Emperor Zodd · #6 January 26th, 2001, 10:28 PM

Medium bonus gives 3x production and research and low bonus 2x production and research.

[This message has been edited by Emperor Zodd (edited 26 January 2001).]

lwmweb · #7 January 26th, 2001, 11:05 PM

The bonus does make for a more interesting game. I think I turned the corner Last night when I forced number 5 to surrender after taking 17 systems and was in the process of taking two of his Last three systems. I was paying close attention and I only advanced one level in each of the techs I received from him. Of course I have his fleets to analyze.

Oh I was number 4 at the time. I am number 2 now but still a ways behind number one in points. The AI definitely uses mine sweepers. I have seen dreadnought equipped as mine sweeps. The mine sweeps do have problems with armed satellites though. They run in combat but don't leave the area for quite a while.