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January 30th, 2003, 03:59 AM
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Re: hydrogen fuel cell car
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On a social level
Promote vegetarianism. It takes far less power to produce fruits and vegetables than it does to produce an equal supply of nutrieants in beaf / pork / chicken.
Cook as little of this food as possible. Cooking destroys a lot of the vitamens in food.
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People do not get fat from eating meat. They get fat from eating too much food and not excercising enough. Becoming a vegetarian alone will only cause you to lose weight if you don't get enough protein supplements so that your body can maintain its muscles.
It is actually easier to lose weight while not being a vegetarian because your body uses proteins when it breaks down fats. Eating more proteins and excercisng is how you lose weight.
Those fruits and vegetables lack a lot of necessary nutrients that are only found in animal products, and some very specific types of vegetables. But, you have to eat more of those vegetables to get the lacking nutrients than you'd need for an equivalent amount of animal products.
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January 30th, 2003, 05:12 AM
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Re: hydrogen fuel cell car
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Originally posted by Gryphin:
On a social level
Promote vegetarianism. It takes far less power to produce fruits and vegetables than it does to produce an equal supply of nutrieants in beaf / pork / chicken.
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Most of the land used to graze cattle on is useless for other farming because of low nutrient and water levels.
Further, humans are meant to eat meat, and can only survive without eating meat by eating a huge amount of the few vegetables that contain the amino acids we can't synthesize.
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Get rid of SUVs!!!!
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You are aware that there are perfectly legitimate reasons to own them?
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January 30th, 2003, 05:34 AM
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Re: hydrogen fuel cell car
"Let’s note a few points here. Hydrogen is the energy in gas oil and coal. So we have quite a lot at the moment, all we need to do is change the way we refine it. And in so doing, we can contain the carbon, sulfur and other impurities."
Except those are useful for other things. Much easier to use seawater. It's plentiful, it has lots of hydrogen, and the techniques needed to seperate the hydrogen are easily done. (this is also why fusion is an attractive energy source)
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January 30th, 2003, 06:13 AM
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Re: hydrogen fuel cell car
Run electricity through some water, it separates into hydrogen and oxygen. 
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January 30th, 2003, 06:39 AM
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Re: hydrogen fuel cell car
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Originally posted by Graeme Dice:
quote: Originally posted by Gryphin:
On a social level
Promote vegetarianism. It takes far less power to produce fruits and vegetables than it does to produce an equal supply of nutrieants in beaf / pork / chicken.
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Most of the land used to graze cattle on is useless for other farming because of low nutrient and water levels.
Further, humans are meant to eat meat, and can only survive without eating meat by eating a huge amount of the few vegetables that contain the amino acids we can't synthesize.
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Get rid of SUVs!!!!
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You are aware that there are perfectly legitimate reasons to own them? You do not want to be around me when I am on a diet high in vegtables. Give me meat and grain.
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January 30th, 2003, 07:15 AM
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Re: hydrogen fuel cell car
"Let’s note a few points here. Hydrogen is the energy in gas oil and coal..."
Not really -- the chemical bonds are. Breaking or forming chemical bonds creates energy.
H2 cars sounds cool, but the costs would be massive... building a whole new energy infrastructure while maintaining the gas one (for late adopters) woudl be much expensive.
Nevertheless, I like the idea of fuel cell cars.
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January 30th, 2003, 09:51 AM
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Re: hydrogen fuel cell car
Remember when cold fusion was announced by Pons and Fleischmann? Everybody was so excited! People thought that we'll just put a small cold fusion reactor in each house, and we'll have lots of cheap power. We'll put cold fusion reactors in cars and we'll no longer need to use fossil fuels. Then there was that big controversy when the cold fusion experiment couldn't be successfully replicated in other labs. Some people thought that it was a consipiracy by the big petroleum corporations to suppress the discovery in order to protect their industry. Haven't heard anything about those guys for years now.
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