Things in SEIV I never knew about....

Slynky · #1 March 28th, 2003, 01:16 AM

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Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
Just remove a comp or two, then retrofit the ship after finished to add those comps back on.

Well, designing ships to closely match SY rates makes sense. However, without looking up retro-fitting costs, doesn't that cost more in materials (retro-fitting) than had it been built straight out of the SY?

I realize if you have the resources to throw away, it's alright but...

Atrocities · #2 March 28th, 2003, 01:39 AM

Retro is about economics. If you can aford it, do it. This is a viable alternative to races with weak production, but extra resources per turn.

Slynky · #3 March 28th, 2003, 03:11 AM

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Originally posted by Atrocities:
Retro is about economics. If you can aford it, do it. This is a viable alternative to races with weak production, but extra resources per turn.

Well, that also makes sense. I guess that's another reason I get my *** kicked so often

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Also, one of the reasons the game is so good!

dogscoff · #4 March 28th, 2003, 12:34 PM

you can get unused construction points to carry over into the next build by ordering multile units (ie one fighter takes one turn to build, but ten fighters of the same design might only need 8 or 9 turns at the same yard. YMMV)

I didn't know about ramming and experience, thanks.

Ward · #5 March 28th, 2003, 01:42 PM

Later in the game when you fight ships with shield depleters consider investing in Armor. It really pays off.

Yesterday, I did some experiments with hi-tech ships. I found out that ships with armor perform much better than those with shields, when facing enemy with shield depleters(this is logical, after all, but it didn't strike me before). I admit I didn't consider weapons that penetrate armor(this inludes almost exclusively crystaline tech tree, Null space weapons are too exppensive to be effective) and you will have to repair very often but this way your ships will survive longer and thus will have more experience. The point is that ships with shield depleters will have less damage potential against you. Another advantage is mineral cost. While a "standard" dreadnought with anti-proton beams costs about 27000 minerals, an armor-protected ship costs about 21000 minerals.
BTW: You can add one shield generator and one shield regenerator. Just in case there are some boarding fanatics. :-)

oleg · #6 March 29th, 2003, 02:20 AM

Ships with armour and no shields will have a hard time if enemy uses engine killers !

Ward · #7 March 28th, 2003, 03:10 PM

Yes, that's true and that's why I proposed to give there shield regenerator. Anyway, if the enemy has the firepower to put down your shields in 1 turn(and on hi-tech ships he usually has) you are in trouble anyway. With armor you have at least something to protect you... And if you know that the enemy has those weapons, just retrofit one wepon to repulser beam and most problems are gone.