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February 13th, 2003, 12:55 PM
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Also Teddy Roosevelt was an environmentalist why do Republicans want to trash the environment?
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They don't. No one wants to trash the environment (well, nearly noone).
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Actually libertarians are for less government -Republicans are for less Social Programs - the Patriot Act (as an example) is a Republican initiative and that certainly doesn't mean less govt.
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Actually, Libertarians are for no government, Republicans are for less government, not just social porgrams, Democrats are for more government at every turn.
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Hmm, I thought being a Christian was just believing that you believed in a higher power a.k.a whatever the name is for God in their religion.
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No, that is being religious. Being Christian means that you believe in the one God (and a very specific one), and that you accept the divinity of Jesus Christ. The vast majority of people in this world are religious and by no means Christian.
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February 13th, 2003, 01:09 PM
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Libertarians are for no government,
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That would be an anarchist, wouldn't it? I would say that a libertarian wants *some* government, just not much.
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February 13th, 2003, 04:00 PM
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Oh America, great land of freedom and holy protector of the free world. Save us!
We've been good boys, we've always followed you advice, we allowed you to buy each and everyone of our companies and banks until nothing remained of our own, and we never complained. Why when that advice lead us into the worst economic crisis of our history you denied us your help. Of course we've made many mistakes of our own, but your impossible demands don't help.
As you can see anti-american feeling are not strange around here.
Now in this Iraq crisis we're sending humanitarian help.
We're still on the verge of needing humanitarian help ourselves.
We have children starving to death on the streets here on the country that produces more food per capita in the world!
But no, cleaning up the mess made by the great god-state is the priority.
If the US needs to find mass destruction weapons as an excuse (they can do whatever they want without excuse anyway), they will find them whether they exist or not.
Saying the word freedom in every sentence of any speech does not mean you're supporting freedom.
Killing millions only to keep control of the oil marked you already dominate is a very noble cause.
Someone said cutting the head of the snake. Most snakes will leave you alone if you don't step on them first, you know.
Is the mega-empire going to show they're mega-evil or mega-benevolent?
(sorry is this sounds too incoherent, I'm not feeling very coherent today)
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February 13th, 2003, 04:06 PM
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The Libertarians I've met are against anything not specifically included in the Constitution for the federal government, and much of that is extended to the state governments, too. They feel the government shouldn't be involved in any attempt to protect its citizens from themselves/each other (i.e., drivers licenses, building codes, etc.).
I greatly prefer personal responsibility to government responsibility, but some issues (such as required testing to get a driver's license) are the exception to the rule. Of course, with pop culture de-emphasizing personal responsibility (IOW, pushing victimhood), government is filling in the gaps.
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February 13th, 2003, 04:27 PM
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Originally posted by dogscoff:
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Libertarians are for no government,
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That would be an anarchist, wouldn't it? I would say that a libertarian wants *some* government, just not much. Some people think that if you don't want their pet law or government agency controlling something then you must want no government. 
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February 13th, 2003, 04:37 PM
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Originally posted by Andrés Lescano:
Oh America, great land of freedom and holy protector of the free world. Save us!
We've been good boys, we've always followed you advice, we allowed you to buy each and everyone of our companies and banks until nothing remained of our own, and we never complained. Why when that advice lead us into the worst economic crisis of our history you denied us your help. Of course we've made many mistakes of our own, but your impossible demands don't help.
As you can see anti-american feeling are not strange around here.
Now in this Iraq crisis we're sending humanitarian help.
We're still on the verge of needing humanitarian help ourselves.
We have children starving to death on the streets here on the country that produces more food per capita in the world!
But no, cleaning up the mess made by the great god-state is the priority.
If the US needs to find mass destruction weapons as an excuse (they can do whatever they want without excuse anyway), they will find them whether they exist or not.
Saying the word freedom in every sentence of any speech does not mean you're supporting freedom.
Killing millions only to keep control of the oil marked you already dominate is a very noble cause.
Someone said cutting the head of the snake. Most snakes will leave you alone if you don't step on them first, you know.
Is the mega-empire going to show they're mega-evil or mega-benevolent?
(sorry is this sounds too incoherent, I'm not feeling very coherent today)
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First, no one made you guys sell out, if it really happened that way. And second, if you have a surplus of food, and people are still going hungry, then you need to look a little closer to home. And exactly who would we be speaking of as a nation? Perhaps you should mention that in your post.
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February 13th, 2003, 04:40 PM
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Perhaps you should mention that in your post.
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Peoples' locations are listed at the foot of each post. Take another look and you'll see Andres is from Rosario, Argentina.
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