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Old February 14th, 2003, 04:36 AM

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It happened under Davis.
Actually Davis INHERITED the problem. Deregulation occurred in 1996. It was signed by Wilson who was the architect. A fact that Republicans conveniently forget.

Here's a website that details all the problems - http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/power.crisis/comp.html (i purposely chose CNN so that you wouldn't accuse me of getting my information from a extremely liberal source). This website BTW was created before it was discovered that the power companies were gouging the state. It has only recently been disovered that the out of state power generators were colluding to drive up prices at the expense of consumers.

Also the City of Los Angeles was not part of the deregulation plan because it was generating its own power and did not have any problems (because it was regulated).
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Old February 14th, 2003, 05:00 AM
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I can't believe that anyone thinks that CNN isn't an extremely liberal source, except maybe an extreme liberal...Greybeard
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Old February 14th, 2003, 05:46 AM

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I can't believe that anyone thinks that CNN isn't an extremely liberal source, except maybe an extreme liberal...Greybeard

. . .and Fox News whose editorial head worked in the Nixon, Reagan, and Bush Sr. white houses under various guises is "Fair and Balanced" - at least CNN makes a pretention of being unbiased.
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ROFLOL!!!!

That's great! I think I'll print this and post it on the bulletin board at work!

Seriously, though, bringing up Fox doesn't make CNN unbiased any more than bringing up Ari Fleischer makes George Stephanopolous unbiased. Everyone has a bias. Denying that the (vast) majority of mainstream journalists, editors, and reporters hold liberal viewpoints contradicts their own statements. Denying that one's viewpoints color one's reporting is overly optimistic. Overlooking liberal bias in the media while jumping all over Fox News for conservative bias is...umm...*searches for non-inflammatory words*...inconsistent.

(Wow! I think it's an entire post without a single inflammatory remark! Do I get a prize? )

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Old February 14th, 2003, 06:07 AM

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Well I could never travel as much I would have like, I've only left the country a couple of times and I've never gone to the US (America is the name of the whole continent, and I'm certainly in America)
But yes I read some international new, and have read many Posts in these forums complaining about the same problems.
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Old February 14th, 2003, 06:10 AM

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(i purposely chose CNN so that you wouldn't accuse me of getting my information from a extremely liberal source)
ROFLOL!!!!

That's great! I think I'll print this and post it on the bulletin board at work!

Everyone acts as if it were a self-evident truth that the mass media are liberally biased. Where are those liberal TV channels? Could I please sign up for them? All I get on my cable system are center-right channels such as CNN, CNBC, MSNBC, and far-right channels such as the "we distort, you deride", Fox News, owned by equally far-right media tycoon Rupert Murdoch, and assorted christian nutball channels such as the Trinity Broadcasting Network or Pat Robertson's The 700 Club, carried by Fox Family.
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(i purposely chose CNN so that you wouldn't accuse me of getting my information from a extremely liberal source)
ROFLOL!!!!

That's great! I think I'll print this and post it on the bulletin board at work!

Seriously, though, bringing up Fox doesn't make CNN unbiased any more than bringing up Ari Fleischer makes George Stephanopolous unbiased. Everyone has a bias. Denying that the (vast) majority of mainstream journalists, editors, and reporters hold liberal viewpoints contradicts their own statements. Denying that one's viewpoints color one's reporting is overly optimistic. Overlooking liberal bias in the media while jumping all over Fox News for conservative bias is...umm...*searches for non-inflammatory words*...inconsistent.

(Wow! I think it's an entire post without a single inflammatory remark! Do I get a prize? )

Yeah your right lets go through the list of all those liberals in the media:

Sean Hannity - he's a progressive christian who likes to speak his mind.
Chris Matthews - he's a left leaning liberal
CNN Pundit Pat Buchanan - he's liberal because all those Jews in Florida voted for him.
MSNBC pundit Alan Keyes - he must be liberal because he's black
Bill O'Reilly - he's a left wing muckraker
Wolf Blitzer - he's a crypto leftist
Rob Novak - he's a champion of the poor
Tony Snow - always asks Republicans the tough questions
Tim Russert - Never lets Republicans off the hook
Brit Hume - always fair and balanced

EDIT: Oh yeah how could I forget:

Rush Limbaugh - the head of Extreme Left talk radio

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