OT - Good sci fi TV shows?

Omega_Prime · #1 February 13th, 2003, 05:52 PM

10 most awful sci-fi TV shows ever.

1. Earth: Final Conflict
2. Voyager
3. Farscape (After it started sucking)
4. Cleopatra 2525 (watchable on mute)
5. Lost in Space
6. Andromeda
7. Highlander: Raven
8. Enterprise (is there a petition to kill this?}
9. Greatest American Hero
10. Manamal

ten best:

1. Stargate SG1
2. B5 (Though very dry chemistry wise)
3. Sliders (first season at least)
4. Battlestar galactica
5. X-files (early on)
6. Night Stalker (horror/mystery/scifi)
7. Twilight Zone
8. 6 million dollar man
9. Farscape (Before it started sucking)
10. Outer Limits

I didn't mention shows like Scorpian/Nightman/Manta because they are pretty much the same bad show, with different actors.

orev_saara · #2 February 13th, 2003, 07:26 PM

Did somebody claim that Stranger in a Strange Land was a good book? Maybe I am a stranger in a strange land, but it seemed to me that Heinlein was just indulging in some of his odd fetishes a little too much in that book. Don't believe me? Read Glory Road or Job: A Comedy of Justice. Good writing occasionally, but the man had issues. If you're looking to read good sci-fi, I recommend Asimov or Cherryh. Or Zelazny, for something a little wierder. Or Card. And Saberhagen sci-fi ain't bad.

Baron Munchausen · #3 February 13th, 2003, 07:47 PM

Omega Prime, you missed the 'revival' Galactical 1980 on that list of the worst SciFi of all time. It belongs at the TOP of the list, too! The Buck Rogers series follows closely behind it.

Orev Saara wrote:

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Did somebody claim that Stranger in a Strange Land was a good book? Maybe I am a stranger in a strange land, but it seemed to me that Heinlein was just indulging in some of his odd fetishes a little too much in that book. Don't believe me? Read Glory Road or Job: A Comedy of Justice. Good writing occasionally, but the man had issues. If you're looking to read good sci-fi, I recommend Asimov or Cherryh. Or Zelazny, for something a little wierder. Or Card. And Saberhagen sci-fi ain't bad.

Yes, Heinlein re-wrote the same book(s) many times over. Stranger in a Strange Land is nearly identical with Friday, for example. Too bad he didn't know when to quit.

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Omega_Prime · #4 February 13th, 2003, 07:52 PM

Job: A comedy of justice. If that sucked any harder I would accuse it of being a colaberation between Terry Gilliam, David Lynch, and Tim Burton. It was that bad. Good thing they never made a move together. It would be three hours of muppets and midgets commiting suicide via auto-erotic-asphyxiation. (Or would that be a dream sequence?)

Tim Burton can rape a story like nobody else...except maybe Disney. (Treasure Planet? Tarzan? I hope Disney never starts doing Bible Stories...Jesus and the cross singing, Jesus surfs on it.)

Legend of Sleepy Hollow was okay...it just had nothing to do with the story of the same name.
It should have been called, "Sherlock Holms and the case of the Headless Swordsman"

But together? Together they form VOLTRON.

LOL

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Omega_Prime · #5 February 13th, 2003, 08:01 PM

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Originally posted by Baron Munchausen:
Omega Prime, you missed the 'revival' Galactical 1980 on that list of the worst SciFi of all time. It belongs at the TOP of the list, too! The Buck Rogers series follows closely behind it.

I considered Galactica 1980, but it was a kid's show. Chips from space, almost. I also didn't include Knight Rider, Team Knight Rider (yeah there was a spin-off!) Captain Marvel/Isis, Electrowoman/DynaGirl, and a host of other unwatchables. It's not really fair to include kids shows as bad scifi...or else I would have a super long list...highlander the animated series.....the new Stargate cartoon....Trek Animated.....

The only reason 6 million dollar man made it, was because of the original premise (borrowed from the story Cyborg). A cyborg secret agent. Not new now with cyber-punk, but ground-breaking in its day. It started off, I might add better than it ended. It was a comic-book on TV by the end. Bigfoot, aliens...more than one race of aliens....complete androids....but in the 70s people wanted crap, so that is what they eventually got from this show too.

gregebowman · #6 February 13th, 2003, 08:20 PM

Hey, I loved Steve Austin back then. Like I mentioned earlier, the series did start out good, but by the end it was terrible. Bigfoot and aliens? Sheesh, I didn't want that kind of junk even back then.

As far as Heinlein goes, I was thoroughly enjoying all of his books when I was growing up until I read Stranger In A Strange Land and Glory Road. I was in my early to mid teens, and it was quite a shocker for me to read all of that adult content. It took me about 10 years before I finally picked up another of his books, which I think was either Friday or Job. If he had just stayed with the format I was enjoying that he used for Have Spacesuit Will Travel and all of the others like that, I would have kept on reading his works.

Grandpa Kim · #7 February 14th, 2003, 06:42 AM

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Originally posted by orev_saara:
Did somebody claim that Stranger in a Strange Land was a good book? Maybe I am a stranger in a strange land, but it seemed to me that Heinlein was just indulging in some of his odd fetishes a little too much in that book. Don't believe me? Read Glory Road or Job: A Comedy of Justice. Good writing occasionally, but the man had issues. If you're looking to read good sci-fi, I recommend Asimov or Cherryh. Or Zelazny, for something a little wierder. Or Card. And Saberhagen sci-fi ain't bad.

We must agree to disagree. The crap I read is much better than the crap you read.

But let us have limits: Cherryh?! Yuck!