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February 18th, 2003, 10:19 PM
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Re: OT - Good sci fi TV shows?
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I read Starship Troopers probably about 25-30 years ago, so even I don't remember the plotline of the book. Just the opening chapter is the only thing I still remember. I would have reread the book when the movie came out, but I think it's at my mom's house in Oklahoma.
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Essentially, the producer ignored all the politics and important stuff. Then filled in his own impression because he didn't like Heinlein's political beliefs.
Nit: vets didn't take over the government in a coup as Micheal Ironside's character implied. Governments had collapsed around the world and in Aberdeen (earliest known case) some vets got together and formed a provisional government that eventually became worldwide.
Nit2: Sergeant Zim was a harsh taskmaster in the book, not a brutal thug like in the movie. (The scene where a recruit asks about training with knives ended in a small lecture by Zim about "there are no dangerous weapons, only dangerous men" and not Zim throwing a dagger through the recruit's hand.
Trivia1: Reference to Sergeant Zim is leading me to replace him with Invader Zim. But then my mind is twisted.
I think I'll stop here.
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February 19th, 2003, 01:40 AM
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Re: OT - Good sci fi TV shows?
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The one thing I think it is safe to say, without fear of criticism, is that "Starship Troopers - The Film" bore awfully little resemblance to "Starship Troopers - The Book".
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And on and on. I think the only thing that was the same was that humans were fighting bugs. On a realated note can anyone think of any Sci-Fi movie (or any movie) based on a book that was actually good? The only thing close that I've seen were actualy Outer Limits episodes that were based on Sci-Fi short stories. Even then they were a bit disapointing.
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February 19th, 2003, 03:28 AM
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Re: OT - Good sci fi TV shows?
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And on and on. I think the only thing that was the same was that humans were fighting bugs. On a realated note can anyone think of any Sci-Fi movie (or any movie) based on a book that was actually good? The only thing close that I've seen were actualy Outer Limits episodes that were based on Sci-Fi short stories. Even then they were a bit disapointing.[/QB] well, all too true. Most movies don't resemble the books they're based on. Just look at almost any Stephen King or Tom Clancy movie. I can't understand the Hollywood mentality to think that they got to rework a best-selling book into a bomb. There are exceptions, but so few I can't think of too many. I did like the most recent Version of The Time Machine. And I prefer The Running Man movie to the book. Those are the only ones I can think of.
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February 19th, 2003, 09:00 AM
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Re: OT - Good sci fi TV shows?
desdinova - wasn't that like the story from Buck Rogers? There the most advanced Earth fighters were supposed to run by computers. Unfortunately, those computers were sold to Earth by the Draconians, who pretty much waxed the Earth forces left and right. It took Buck Rogers flying by his own skill to save the day and convince the humans they should depend on their own abilities. That and some disco dancing...egad!
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February 19th, 2003, 09:18 AM
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Re: OT - Good sci fi TV shows?
cheese - i think your right. no one knew how to fly without the computer. i beleive he began teaching them how to fly by the seat of their pants. then of course he was useful as he was not in the computer records like he every one else was since birth.
of course this was nothing like the book either
edit: i wonder when its coming out on dvd.
edit 2: nope it was only 1 episode (EPISODE 4)that had that problem.
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February 19th, 2003, 11:09 AM
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Re: OT - Good sci fi TV shows?
and the fact that for some bizarre reason, all the cute galactic babes like Princess Ardala and Wilma Deering (bidda bidda bidda to that) found Buck irrestibly attractive!!
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February 19th, 2003, 01:32 PM
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Re: OT - Good sci fi TV shows?
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On a realated note can anyone think of any Sci-Fi movie (or any movie) based on a book that was actually good?
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hmmm,.. The Thing, Planet of the Apes (original!), The Omega Man, 2001: a Space Odyssey, Greystoke: The Legend of Tarzan, Jurassic Park, Hunt for Red October, etc, etc, etc.
I could go on and on, for some reason the 'Good' ones seem to be 'memorable'. Dune comes to mind, but you'd have to clip the ending (prevent Paul from causing it to rain) over-all Dune is well done, but Dune had just a few 'major' bugs that basically raped the original book! The Mini-Series was/is a much better adaptation of the book!
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