Trade amount

[bostonrpgmania]

Thanks for the information.

Ihave another question.
If you check trade section of the panel, there is a item called 'trade amount'.
Is this the money that I receive from my partner?
How can I check how much is going out of my treasury to these guys?
thanks

[dogscoff]

Best way to explain is by example:

Empire A mines 100000 minerals per turn.
Empire B mines 80000 minerals per turn.

When they first start their trade alliance, they are at 1%. You can see this percentage on the same screen as the trade amount.

The result is that an extra 100000*1%=1000 minerals is generated from nowhere and given to empire B, and 80000*1%=800 minerals are generated and given to A.

Note that the extra resources don't come out of anyone's treasury, they are generated from nowhere.

Their trade percentage increases by 1% per turn until it gets to 20%
Assuming they have the same production, B would then get an extra 20000 minerals each turn and A would get 16000.

Same principle applies to rads, orgs and (in higher level treaties) research and intel. Note that empire B gets the better deal in this example.

If Empire C had an alliance with empire A, the income empire A gets from empire B is NOT counted when calculating C's gain, so C would get exactly the same income from A as B does.

Income from scrapping ships/ facilities and from gifts/ trades does not count when calculating trade totals either.

[ February 13, 2003, 11:02: Message edited by: dogscoff ]

[Slick]

Minor addition: multipy what Dogscoff said by trade modifier percent that the receiver has. I think it is called "Political Savvy" but I am not on a computer that has the game installed right now.

[edit: You can't see actual percentage of Political Savvy in the game, but if you click on the empire you can get a word description of its attribute.]

And to reiterate, you lose nothing by trade. The extra resources are supposed to be generated by unseen trade ships which are far to small and numerous to be included in the game.

Slick.

[ February 13, 2003, 15:17: Message edited by: Slick ]

[bostonrpgmania]

thank you for the help

But I think it is somewhat weird that resources come nowhere....

BTW, I am a casual gamer try to enjoy this game.
I know this site provides wonderful helps (extemely fast) and even created a special web site to help newbie ( I frequently visit there)...But why manual can be more complete so that we can just search the manual......just my opinion. maybe more lengthy manual for SE V?

[trooper]

I think that most players don't read manuals in detail, and it's very, very hard to write a complete manual (and even more difficult to find the information in it) for a game as complicated as SE IV.

Sure that this kind of detail would be usefull. But it's so fun trying to discover this information by ourselves, why should we waste our pleasure ?

[Slick]

Originally posted by bostonrpgmania:


But I think it is somewhat weird that resources come nowhere....

The trade alliance is greater than the sum of its parts. At least that sounds good.

Slick.