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[oleg]

What AI bonus suppose to be ?? I'm playing with medium bonus now and got mighty deppresed

[JLS]

Originally posted by oleg:
What AI bonus suppose to be ?? I'm playing with medium bonus now and got mighty deppresed

Oleg, what do you mean by AI Bonus ? When you say your playing med bonus I assume you took Just the top human player trait.
Currant human Player options are from Traits Menu:
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TOP: *Human Player MUST SELECT here first* Description :=This choice alone delivers a moderate game. Human Player may mix options below.
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1: Human Player Opt 1
Description := Add for Easiest level: Increased Production and Point Bonus.
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2: Human Player Opt 2 Description := Add for Easy (Do Not use with Finite Games): Higher Proportions of Resources.
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3: Human Player Opt 3
Description := Moderate: Human players MAY take this for a game requiring more logistics.
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4: Human Player Opt 4
Hard: Human players MAY take this for 20% less recourses.
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Above options may be mixed for your enjoyment. NOTE: BE sure to take at least *Human Player MUST SELECT*
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Oleg, Just the top selection will give you a moderate game , as is stated. With your experience you could take this choice. Option 1 and option 2 are for easy to extremely easy games.
What trait setup did you use, did you pick any Human Player options? How many AI players are in your game? What turn are you in, if you choose just a moderate game (TOP Only) and you are for example:
Less then 100 turns I doubt you could be ahead of the AI Players and just starting to pass the AI neutrals by then. By about turn 150 to 200 you should start moving towards the middle of the AI Player pack. Depending how many AI Players (game menu/players) are in your game you may never get to First place. Note: AI players not Nuetral players.
Of course this is subject to many Variables. In example: Who is at war, What strategic state the AI may be in at the time you checked the score, does the gas AI have Gas planets near, is your exploration halted by a stubborn or Violent AI, etc. If you had a poor random startup give it another start!

Will this be the prozac for your depression? If there is another issue, let me know by post or email.
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Guys, if you want a basic Moderate player game just take the top selection. (*Human Player MUST SELECT here first*); Description :=This choice alone delivers a moderate game.

I hope you did not pick the AI choices by accident...

However, do not choose :
AI 1 thru 4
Description := !ONLY AI SHOULD TO TAKE THIS TRAIT! Gives AI Balance Tech
Or
NEU
Description := !ONLY AI SHOULD TO TAKE THIS TRAIT! For Neutral AI Pre-Game Point Set up.

Excerpt from AIC Readme; “Now pick any racial traits that you desire. MP Level ladder Handicap choices are generally for Multiplayer games. In addition, take note that (AI 1 thru 4)! ONLY AI SHOULD TO TAKE THIS TRAIT! Please do not choose this, unless you want to get some funky results”.

[ February 23, 2003, 18:38: Message edited by: JLS ]

[JLS]

Originally posted by Phoenix-D:
"I think 4X damage to shields should remain a unique feature of Temoral Tech !!"

They're talking about quarter damage to shields. As in, 1/4, not 4.

Phoenix-D

I also agree and TEMPORALS are absolutely the only race that has "Quad Damage To Shields" in AIC Campaign

[ February 23, 2003, 14:14: Message edited by: JLS ]

[JLS]

Originally posted by oleg:
Are you sure Gestation vats work as you intended ?
30% bonus to GV 3 does _not_ increase reproduction by 30%, it gives reproduction rate of 30%. Thus if you have normal reproduction on your homeworld of 15%, with GV3 it will become 45% New homeworld in few years !!!

Gestation vats

This may be high but please help me with the math.

AI Campaign:
Gestation vats III ; Organic Technology 6
Modify Reproduction – System :=30
Reproduction Check Frequency := 10 (every 10 turns)
Empire Starting Percent Reproduction := 11 (Base Settings)
Starting colony: 1 POP
Poulation increase every 10 turns

It may take a centuries to get it up to Homeworld populations, not a few years as you stated. (1 year equals 10 turns)
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Now lets take a look at stock SE4:
Replicant Center III: Organic Technology 6
Change Population – System := 40
Empire Starting Percent Reproduction := 11 (Base Settings)
Starting colony: 1 POP
Populations in this system will increase by 40M per turn
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Which will reach a higher population in a few years ?

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We know that a higher population equals a higher production rate.
I felt a per turn increased in a mod that enjoys the a Population mass of 1000 is to great a stress on any non organic races, so by increasing Modify Reproduction to greater value the organics will still benefit from there cultural ways.

So Replicant Center in this release is not in play, but a the large bonus that we discussed above was added to Gestation vats to offset. The Organic weapons tech is also lowered 25% (easier) start research to that of Crystal Weapons (relatively) to what you might be used to.

This is my intent

[ February 23, 2003, 17:04: Message edited by: JLS ]

[JLS]

Originally posted by Suicide Junkie:
Sorting your components by type in components.txt would be nice as well; you've currently got WP armor at the top of the file, and AFV armor at the bottom.
That makes the location of armor in the design screen inconsistent between vehicle types.

RE: Ionic Shield Generators.
Regular shields provide protection against engine destroying weapons as of the latest patch, so these aren't really required anymore. They could be abused as armor components, given their huge hitpoints and low cost.

Re: Small arms troop weapons.

Re: Heavy weapons (troops).

"RE: Ionic Shield Generators".

History: Version 1.70: 7. Changed - Engine Damaging Weapons no longer skip shields.
Again thanks, this is good advise! .
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"RE:Sorting your components by type in components.txt Re: Small arms troop weapons".

Absolutely housekeeping on the Text file descriptions are in order. I probably will be vague still on AI specific component and facility abilities still as to add a little in Game mystery for the players that don’t want to peak at the Data files

[ February 23, 2003, 16:59: Message edited by: JLS ]

[oleg]

Originally posted by JLS:

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Originally posted by oleg:
Are you sure Gestation vats work as you intended ?
30% bonus to GV 3 does _not_ increase reproduction by 30%, it gives reproduction rate of 30%. Thus if you have normal reproduction on your homeworld of 15%, with GV3 it will become 45% New homeworld in few years !!!

Gestation vats

This may be high but please help me with the math.

AI Campaign:
Gestation vats III ; Organic Technology 6
Modify Reproduction – System :=30
Reproduction Check Frequency := 10 (every 10 turns)
Empire Starting Percent Reproduction := 11 (Base Settings)
Starting colony: 1 POP
Poulation increase every 10 turns

It may take a centuries to get it up to Homeworld populations, not a few years as you stated. (1 year equals 10 turns)
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Now lets take a look at stock SE4:
Replicant Center III: Organic Technology 6
Change Population – System := 40
Empire Starting Percent Reproduction := 11 (Base Settings)
Starting colony: 1 POP
Populations in this system will increase by 40M per turn
=
Which will reach a higher population in a few years ?

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We know that a higher population equals a higher production rate.
I felt a per turn increased in a mod that enjoys the a Population mass of 1000 is to great a stress on any non organic races, so by increasing Modify Reproduction to greater value the organics will still benefit from there cultural ways.

So Replicant Center in this release is not in play, but a the large bonus that we discussed above was added to Gestation vats to offset. The Organic weapons tech is also lowered 25% (easier) start research to that of Crystal Weapons (relatively) to what you might be used to.

This is my intent

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Hmm... Yes, removing of replicant centers makes 30% replication bonus reasonable. Now Organic races must build race-specific buildings in Home World system only for maximum benefits, reducing overall bonuses of Organic race. Yes, the numbers make sense.

[oleg]

Originally posted by JLS:

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Originally posted by oleg:
What AI bonus suppose to be ?? I'm playing with medium bonus now and got mighty deppresed

Oleg, what do you mean by AI Bonus ? When you say your playing med bonus I assume you took Just the top human player trait.
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I meant the AI bonuses from race start-up menu: medium is the one that gives AI 3X for production/research/construction. My estimate is that without any bonuses AIC AI have about 60% edge over humans. With medium Ai bonuses it translates into "high AI bonus" (5X )in normal SE.

For myself I took "medium difficulty" (penalty for supply) and "supply geezers" (30% supply penalty) The gameplay remainds me our current space exploration status: Mars expedition uses all oil reserves

[ February 23, 2003, 23:17: Message edited by: oleg ]