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February 23rd, 2003, 01:57 PM
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Re: Looking for a killer strategy with Deeply Religious trait
As I said, there are a lot of great players out there who has more (and better) advise to give than me.
However;
The beauty of SEIV is that there are no such thing as the Ultimate shipdesign. There is a counter strategy for every type of design, the whole point is to guess what your opponent is using.
Both the Talisman and APB (12 levels) are very expensive to research. By the time you have both you should at least have Battleship. Then you can use the Heavy Mount and get a real punch. What else you put on that ship should be dictated by your opposition and what other ships you use in your fleet.
For Your particular game, maybe you should go for PPB first (If you haven't already). Personally I would never use The talisman for anything smaller than a Cruiser. My standard Cruiser with PPB would be: MasterComputer (if there are psychic players around), 6 engines, Talisman, Multiplex tracking, ECM, 2 PD, 4 PPB (Large mount) + 130 KT of the best Armor/Shields available.
I expect the next post to be from Fyron who will tell how much this design sucks. 
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February 23rd, 2003, 05:19 PM
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Re: Looking for a killer strategy with Deeply Religious trait
matt was asking for design plans on his ships. So definitely having a ship will all APB (particularly when you reach the highest levels) is an effective ship when mixed with the Talisman. Having engine destroyers and shield depleters are good additions, but if this ship is set on maximum range to take advantage of its best asset, these other weapons won't see any use.
My advice is that he make designs including such weapons as part of the overall fleet.
I wasn't too sure about the organic armor, but it does contain a number in the "supplies used" section. I guess that may apply for movement, like stealth armor or cloaking. I have run simulations that indicated (and yes, I know the simulator isn't the best source for this) that the regeneration was halted when the engines were destroyed. Since they were the only source for supplies, it seemed to make some sense. That's why I said "may eliminate".
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February 23rd, 2003, 10:55 PM
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Re: Looking for a killer strategy with Deeply Religious trait
The goal with Religous is to dance... SO make sure your ships are maxed out on engines and with the solar sail. Also make sure you have 1 supply cargo. the 2 sensors ( Multi tracking and the defensive bonus one ), Depending on how your enemy is add the one each of the two defensive armors ( For that extra 30% on defence ) A couple of shields ( depending on what the enemey comes at you with but always put one on) and then in the following order 2xshield depleter, 1xengine weapon , Weapon of choice , 2 PDC's
Now set it to max range and enjoy....
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February 24th, 2003, 12:13 AM
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Re: Looking for a killer strategy with Deeply Religious trait
When you set up your .emp max out you defense - use all your offense points for something else (and sweat it out till you get the talisman) and take bezerker. Always set your ship strategy to max range.
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February 24th, 2003, 02:05 AM
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Re: Looking for a killer strategy with Deeply Religious trait
Yeah, worked pretty well for whoever was originally playing as the Kif in DimensionX2 on PBW (sorry I can't remember his name!) ... that is until everyone else except the Galactic Concordium (who were meanwhile building up massive fleets since I had foolishly agreed not to colonize in their space - see, I was in the middle, they were to my right, and everyone else was to the left, so they got to control half the galaxy unopposed!) ganged up and wiped them out!
That's why I'm surprised anyone is even giving tips here... usually it's like "OMG he's got Religious and he's going to take over the galaxy! Let's stop him!!!" 
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February 24th, 2003, 02:24 AM
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Re: Looking for a killer strategy with Deeply Religious trait
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That's why I'm surprised anyone is even giving tips here... usually it's like "OMG he's got Religious and he's going to take over the galaxy! Let's stop him!!!"
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The very fact that people have that reaction tells you that something is awry with Talismans. I certainly hope they don't make it into SE5. Or, at least not as 100% to hit.
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February 24th, 2003, 09:50 AM
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Re: Looking for a killer strategy with Deeply Religious trait
scary thought
battlestation / starbase
armed with
1x tractor
endless amount of rippers
and outfitted with talisman.
Gosh, if it'd be starbase with the maximum mount i DONT WANT TO MEET IT
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