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ColdSteel · #1 February 3rd, 2001, 04:27 PM

Hey Bill, I graduated from high school in 1973. Guess we're the same age. So, there's at least 2 old farts here.

Sabre21 · #2 February 3rd, 2001, 04:58 PM

I guess there's 3 old farts....probably a few more hiding out there

I graduated HS in 74. I have to agree with Atrocities, MOO2 was OK but no where as good as the original. Also I too liked BOTF...I liked the Star Trek theme. Besides, the varity of unique installations really made each race different to play. I wish we had the ability in SE4 to make unique facilities, ships, and components for a specific race.

DirkHowitzer · #3 February 3rd, 2001, 06:17 PM

I too liked BOTF, if only because of the combat which I thought was cool...lol. What I didn't like was the clumsy interface and the pacifist to the extreme AI...I could never get anyone to fight me!!!

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Darwin · #4 February 3rd, 2001, 06:36 PM

I havn't read the entire thread, so I'm OT here just wanted to put in a little note.

Sid Miers has said that he never had any intenion of working on CivIII.

He is create an undisclosed project that is the true CivIII

He wasn't truely happy with CivI so he replaced it with CivII but they are both to be considered CivI.

Alpha Centuri is to be considered CivII becuase it is next in story line order. It would have been named Civilizaion if he hadn't have had a falling out with the company.

His next Project is the only true CivIII it comes in storyline after Alpha Centuri.

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pathfinder · #5 February 3rd, 2001, 06:52 PM

hehe, ya'll a buncha yougins. ah gradumacated from College in '75.

bmills · #6 February 3rd, 2001, 07:10 PM

In many ways, SE4 is the game I hoped MOO2 would be, but MOO2 itself was a seriously flawed game. I got so frustrated I kept a tally for several games and discovered that the player was about three times as likely as any other empire to be the victim of a harmful "random" event, and that the Antarans "randomly" chose one of my colonies as the target of their raids between 40% and 60% of the time. I *hate* that kind of AI cheating. But the real problem was that command point system. In MOO you could too easily build an instant fleet of thousands of ships, but in MOO2 they went so far the other way that you were lucky if you could support a few dozen. My planets were constantly getting attacked because I just couldn't build enough ships to protect my borders. Then there were the umpteen colony production enhancements. You had to build each one to remain competitive with other empires, but there were so many of them that just keeping the queues full was a full-time job.

In contrast, SE4 suffers from none of these problems, and best of all, most of the game is customizable. Having played a couple of Trevor Chan's massively optioned games (Capitalism & Seven Kingdoms), I think this is one of the best ways to capitalize on the power of computers, and I hope it's the way the rest of the gaming industry will go.

Drake · #7 February 4th, 2001, 01:40 AM

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Originally posted by Darwin:
Sid Miers has said that he never had any intenion of working on CivIII.

He is create an undisclosed project that is the true CivIII

He wasn't truely happy with CivI so he replaced it with CivII but they are both to be considered CivI.

Alpha Centuri is to be considered CivII becuase it is next in story line order. It would have been named Civilizaion if he hadn't have had a falling out with the company.

His next Project is the only true CivIII it comes in storyline after Alpha Centuri.

Ummmm, you might want to look at http://www.firaxis.com/civ3/ and http://www.firaxis.com/team.cfm

Yep, that's Sid. Yep, that's Civ III. Hmmm.