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February 7th, 2001, 09:48 PM
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Re: Pacifist / paralysing mines
I found this line of modding interesting, since way early in the beta testing I put in a request to have "special" mines based on various tech tree weapons.
To wit, I just tried it. I creatd an allegance subverter warhead. Here are the data lines:
Name := Allegiance SubVersion Warhead I
Description := Warhead containing a psychically charged explosive which mentally conquers the crew of a ship (no damaged upon failure). Triggered by contact with a ship.
Pic Num := 183
Tonnage Space Taken := 5
Tonnage Structure := 5
Cost Minerals := 500
Cost Organics := 0
Cost Radioactives := 100
Vehicle Type := Mine
Supply Amount Used := 5
Restrictions := None
General Group := Weapons
Family := 2026
Roman Numeral := 1
Custom Group := 0
Number of Tech Req := 1
Tech Area Req 1 := Explosive Warheads
Tech Level Req 1 := 1
Tech Area Req 1 := Psychic Weapons
Tech Level Req 1 := 4
Number of Abilities := 0
Weapon Type := Warhead
Weapon Target := Ships
Weapon Damage At Rng := 75 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Weapon Damage Type := Crew ConVersion
Weapon Reload Rate := 0
Weapon Display Type := Torp
Weapon Display := 30
Weapon Modifier := 0
Weapon Sound := neutbomb.wav
Weapon Family := 24
Now, while I haven't tested it in battle, it at least *appears* when I have researched the appropriate tech levels. Now for the "but".
But, when I design a mine, there is NO EXPLOSIVE WARHEAD available! Only the allegance converter warhead.
Someone please tell me what I did wrong while I go sew these things around...
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John
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February 7th, 2001, 11:04 PM
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Re: Pacifist / paralysing mines
Lerchey, you need to put new warhead in their own 'Family' and 'Weapon Family' group. You are using the one for the explosive warheads and that may cause the problem.
[This message has been edited by Daynarr (edited 07 February 2001).]
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February 7th, 2001, 11:57 PM
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Re: Pacifist / paralysing mines
If you click off the only latest button you will see the explosive warheads. You created the alegience subverter at the top of the tech tree for explosive warheads so its assumed to be just the latest explosive warhead.
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February 8th, 2001, 12:10 AM
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Re: Pacifist / paralysing mines
quote: Originally posted by Lerchey:
I found this line of modding interesting, since way early in the beta testing I put in a request to have "special" mines based on various tech tree weapons.
To wit, I just tried it. I creatd an allegance subverter warhead. Here are the data lines:
thats really cool. anyone know if this works? i cant try it right now, but i am anxious to know before tonight. you probably cant make a weapon that has the random event power of teleporting your ship to a random spot in the quadrant, but that would also be a cool mine ability. it would also be useful on friendly ships: "Engage the infinite probability drive!"
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February 8th, 2001, 12:20 AM
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Re: Pacifist / paralysing mines
Hrm. I'd like to see "mines" that actually attach themselves as tracking devices, but the coding for that (and balancing it) would be *nasty*.
On teleportation... is the ability "Random target movement" strategic or tactical? I've never bothered with warp weapons, but they've got that ability.
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February 8th, 2001, 12:26 AM
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Re: Pacifist / paralysing mines
I knew there had to be a good idea in there somewhere.
Thanks for creating it Lerchey, my feeble brain wasn't up to the task. If it works it would be a little too much advantage for the psychics....
We send ships, they never report back. We know there's some sort of minefield in there....we send in minesweepers and they join the enemy....hmmmm.
I believe that warp weapons random move ability only works on the tactical map (I have been known to be wrong...quite regularly in fact)
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February 8th, 2001, 12:53 AM
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Re: Pacifist / paralysing mines
All,
Thanks!
I knew I was overlooking something... I just didn't know what.
I'll do a more thorough test tomorrow and will let y'all know if it works. If it does, I plan to do a bunch of more interesting mines, which I'll make available.
John
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