OT. Where they really on the moon?

minipol · #1 March 6th, 2003, 02:09 AM

Ruatha, i'll check out the links

geoschmo · #2 March 5th, 2003, 03:26 PM

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Originally posted by dogscoff:

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The space suits and the space craft are just not strong enough to fight off the radiation either on the Moon itself or through the Van Allen radiation belt. (They went through the Van Allen belt in an hour, this was not enough time to be affected by the radiation. The astronauts were affected by radiation, they just were not made ill by it as the doses were small.)

I think whoever wtrote this misunderstood the point being made. It's not the radiation *within* the Van Allen belt that's the problem- it's the unshielded radiation of the sun *beyond* the belt.

No actually you are incorrect D. Look up Van Allen Belt on google or something. It's a band of radioactive particles trapped by the earths magnetic field. Being in it for long periods of time is harmful to humans and even intrumentation. Passing thgouh it though doesn't cause significant damage beacuse the levels just aren't that high.

You are thinking probably of the general background radiation in space that we are protected from by our atmosphere and the magnetic field of the earth. This is a concern, one that we will have to resolve if we want to do any long-term trips to mars or other planets. But for a trip of a few days to the moon it's just not an issue.

At least not one that we are aware of. There may be some long term health effects of even short term cosmic background radiation, like increased risks of cancer or something. It's hard to tell though because we have such a small sample of astronauts to study and they are in such extrodinary health otherwise. But it's not like being cooked in a microwave oven.

Geoschmo

Aloofi · #3 March 5th, 2003, 04:20 PM

Oh well, I jus ran a search for the Moon thing and EVERY hit I got were for people flaming the "moon hoax theory" and calling them crazy.....
If is a not a hoax, why they pay so much attention and expend so much money on those Moon-hoax -believers?
I need more info to make my mind, but is not looking good for NASA.
Though I must keep in mind that I'm biased against all goverments.
Wow!
They never went to the Moon?!!!

This is better than the Evil Left Wing Conspiracy!!!

Suicide Junkie · #4 March 5th, 2003, 04:36 PM

Damned if you do, and damned if you don't.

Spending a lot of money and attention, you say?
Got this from seeing lots of websites?
Maybe if they formed an "anti-moon hoax" committee and put ads on TV or in papers

Just shooting holes in crackpot theories can be fun, and if you post it on the web maybe you can get your 15 minutes of fame...

Aloofi · #5 March 5th, 2003, 04:44 PM

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Originally posted by Suicide Junkie:
Damned if you do, and damned if you don't.

Spending a lot of money and attention, you say?
Got this from seeing lots of websites?
Maybe if they formed an "anti-moon hoax" committee and put ads on TV or in papers

Just shooting holes in crackpot theories can be fun, and if you post it on the web maybe you can get your 15 minutes of fame...

Oh no, my dear, these were NASA people, as in NASA payroll, as in Taxpayer money.

[ March 05, 2003, 14:45: Message edited by: Aloofi ]

geoschmo · #6 March 5th, 2003, 04:45 PM

If people don't expend a little effort showing the falacies of the conspiracy theorists then you start hearing stuff like, "See, it must be true cause they don't even try to deny it."

Geoschmo

Aloofi · #7 March 5th, 2003, 05:05 PM

Wow!
Now I know there is a conspiracy!
I've been clicking around in sites with names that suggest that they defend the Moon Hoax theory and it turns out that they are trying to convince me that the people behind the theory are evil and are doing this to get my money and are not qualified to "discredit" NASA's work!!!

Now I want to know how deep the rabbit hole goes!

Thanks Minipol for bringing this up.
I'm so happy that I live in the age of the internet and freedom......

Why would I believe in NASA?

Because they are the goverment?
Because everybody believe them?
Because I want to remain safely believing a lie?
Because I don't want to face the fact that NASA may have lie?
Because I don't want to be called crazy or stupid?
Because I don't want to disagree with the herd?

Hell no!
I want the truth!
Doesn't matter how much it hurts my dreams of reaching for the stars and offworld colonies.