Broken Intel?

[Ragnarok]

I think Fyron mostly don't like the fact that it's all or nothing. If you can get through their intel defense then you will always succeed in your action against the other empire. Whereas if you don't, well then of course it fails.
I'm sure there are other reasons why he don't like the intel system. But that's just one I know he doesn't like. Which for that matter, I don't like it either.

[spoon]

Originally posted by Askan Nightbringer:
The main problem with Intel is that its far easier to defend than it is easy to attack.

Given the effectiveness of some of the intel attacks, this is probably a good thing. When I think of intel being "broken" its because of a few overpowered, undercosted attacks:

- Crew Insurrection (steals a ship for 50k)
- Resource Procurement (steals 10k of each resource for 15k)
- Food Contamination (kills 100M population for 15k)
- Comm Mimic (makes one empire declare war on another for 20k

To me, it is another part of the game that needs to be balanced by MM, or modded, to really shine. As it is now, Intel is something experienced players use to torment less experienced players (or Fyron, who refuses to build enough counterintel out of moral obligation )

-spoon

[ March 07, 2003, 17:48: Message edited by: spoon ]

[tbontob]

Originally posted by spoon:
As it is now, Intel is something experienced players use to torment less experienced players (or Fyron, who refuses to build enough counterintel out of moral obligation )

-spoon

Fyron deliberately limits his counter-intel production and thereby increases the probability of a successful Intel attack?

[Power Man]

I found out one can breach the intel defences by timing several attacks to get done at the same time. I had 2 subvert ship attacks that were almost ready to go. I added 3 ship bombs in front of them. All 5 went off together. The 3 ship bombs were stopped but the 2 subvert ships succeded.
In reference to all of the Micro management threads. This is a little MM I am willing to put up with.

[Master Belisarius]

hehehehe, think Fyron hate Intel after a PBW game with Star Trek races that we played! hehehehe
I was playing the Ferengi, and to make profit (I needed an excuse to attack someobdy), did a Com Mimmic between the Romulans (Fyron) and the Federation!
Everybody believed that was a cheat or a game bug! The game was halted and Geo was requested to see the savegames and find the problem!
When knew it, I was unable to stop laugh after several minutes... and remember it now, can't avoid to smile while I'm writing this words!

[tesco samoa]

YEp THE COMM MIMIC is the single most powerful intel tool going.

[1FSTCAT]

I pulled a combined Intel attack combining 6 food poisonings, 2 Ship Converts, 2 Cargo Bombs and 2 Resource Thefts into one turn. He didn't like that. I think I made him mad. LOL.

There's nothing "wrong" with Intel, that I'm aware of. Most of the attacks are easy to avert, if you're prepared for them. I don't think he was.

Most players make the mistake of completely handicapping their Intel scores, in their race design. That doesn't help!

--Ed