[OT] Plato's Pub and Philosophical Society

[dogscoff]

I don't see how one can have both the legitimate rule of law and predeterminism.

You couldn't have anything else, beacuse it is determined that we will have...

Seriously, the problem isn't with determinism but with the atheistic universe that determinism relies on. Whether physics allow only one future or many, I still believe we are all just little pockets of order emerging from infinite chaos.

I'm an atheist (but not a determinist) and as such I believe in a universe where morality is nothing more than a human concept- the result of our sociable monkey heritage fine-tuned by several thousand years of applied philosophy. When we do finally meet intelligent alien life, we are going to have to open whole new universities just to cope with the new branches of philosophy introduced by their non-monkey ancestry.

As a human concept though, I still believe morality has value, because we made it and we place value upon it and it holds our society together (or pretends it does. )

[ March 26, 2003, 09:47: Message edited by: dogscoff ]