Fyron's 5000th Post

[Fyron]

Anti-matter clock? That's the best you could come up with? That is not the opposite of a clock... Anti-matter isn't really an exact opposite to matter anyways.

[Ruatha]

Not a perfect opposite but maybe a start to get the discussion going:
How about a stone, or a rock.
Something that doesn't change for a long time, in opposite to a clock that changes frequently.
This all depends on what timespan we use, but in a human perspective I think that a rock might be seen as a opposite to a clock.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

opposite charges. goes boom if slammed together. now, if you made sure that every single particle in it was opposite ie whatever a quark with a reveresed charge on it is and so on.
rock still temporary collection of atoms and molucules.
or maybe the opposite of matter is no matter. well, opposite is that which opposes, so anti-matter closer.
or if you were refering to the function of a clock, that would be whatever function most opposes that of a clock.
and i'm not going to get into the concept of a clock unless you meant that. to long.

[ April 15, 2003, 09:54: Message edited by: narf poit chez BOOM ]

[David E. Gervais]

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
What is the opposite of a clock?

'A Leo', trust me, time and clocks will have nothing to do with them!

Am I good or what? LOL

Cheers!

[Fyron]

Ruatha's idea actually has some merit. Just saying "anti-matter clock" is a pretty poor attempt because it is the lazy way out. An anti-matter clock is not the opposite of a clock because it is still a clock, so is not truly opposite.

[Cyrien]

That depends on how you define the clock. Are you defining it in terms of its physical makeup or in terms of its purpose. It seems that you are defining in terms of its purpose and function therefore anti-matter clock is a poor fit. And while I can't think of an oppossite off the top of my head that does not mean there isn't one.

In fact all of us could fail to think of an oppossite to a clock and that would still not justify the statement that there is no oppossite to a clock.

In fact if a person wanted to they could go out and create the oppossite of a clock assuming one doesn't already exist.

Based on the function and usage of a clock principle one would first have to come up with a definition of a clocks function.

Here goes:

A clock is that which is used to keep and measure amounts of time that have passed, or a device to tell at what point in a day one is currently at.

Thus the oppossite of the clock would be:

That which is used to lose track of measured amounts of time that have passed, or a device that fails to tell at what point in a day you are currently at.

Thus I conclude that the oppossite of a clock is SE4.

Or you could go for the super impossible oppossite definition:

That which is not used to keep and unmeasure amounts of no time that have not passed, or a non-device to not tell at what point in a day one is currently not at.

Maybe I should throw in a few more nots and nons? A non-day?

What is my point? My point is that how you define the oppossite of a clock is based purely on how you define what is a clock.

[Fyron]

A clock is all of those definitions that have assigned to it, plus others. It is not just one of them; that would be too simplistic to model reality.

SE4 keeps track of time, just in a different manner than a standard clock. So, it is not an opposite to a clock, because it possess some similar traits and functions. In fact, SE4 incorporates a clock! It can not be an opposite to something that is a part of itself.

How about this:
What is the opposite to a Sony DVD Player? And don't say an anti-matter Sony DVD Player, cause that is in no way an opposite. Matter having an opposite spin and charge from anti-matter does not make a particular matter and anti-matter object pair a pair of opposites.

You're claim of everything having an opposite requires a much more black and white universe than the one we live in. Most things do not have anything that qualifies as an opposite.

[ April 15, 2003, 20:33: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]