.com.unity Forums
  The Official e-Store of Shrapnel Games

This Month's Specials

Raging Tiger- Save $9.00
The Star and the Crescent- Save $9.00

   







Go Back   .com.unity Forums > Shrapnel Community > Space Empires: IV & V

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old February 8th, 2001, 11:45 PM

wilcoxon wilcoxon is offline
Private
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: MN, USA
Posts: 10
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
wilcoxon is on a distinguished road
Default Re: TG contest question

Hmmm, to expand on what someone else said. What's to prevent you from creating a custom race (say Gas Giant dwelling), creating a new game with 10 planets per player, saving the map, then starting up a contest game? Will the planet types and atmospheres be saved with the map? If so, you could have a huge portion of the galaxy be primary (green) planets.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old February 9th, 2001, 12:03 AM
geoschmo's Avatar

geoschmo geoschmo is offline
National Security Advisor
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Ohio
Posts: 8,450
Thanks: 0
Thanked 5 Times in 2 Posts
geoschmo is on a distinguished road
Default Re: TG contest question

quote:
What's to prevent you
...

As the rules stand now, nothing except your own sense of fair play.

The most I have done with relation to maps at this point is regenerate until I get one with enough systems to my liking. I don't even look at what is in the systems.

Not saying that is cheating, just that I haven't done it. (yet)
__________________
I used to be somebody but now I am somebody else
Who I'll be tomorrow is anybody's guess
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old February 9th, 2001, 12:34 AM

Nyx Nyx is offline
Sergeant
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Fairfield, Iowa
Posts: 268
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Nyx is on a distinguished road
Default Re: TG contest question

Wilcoxon, technically you can do such a thing. However, I personally scan each game, I do look for things like that. Hell, I've been manually adding up the income from facilities and checking the value against what's listed to make sure the player didn't hex edit something!

As for the score limit, I'll look into that. We had a bug in the database limiting it earlier and I told them to raise it to 99 million and they told me they had. I guess they lied and will have to be loaded onto a transport and dumped into space like rioting populations... Uh er, wait, been playing too much I think. I'll speak to them and get back to you.

------------------
Compete in the Space Empires IV World Championship at www.twingalaxies.com.

--------------

Score update:
According to our database people, the limit is set to 80 million and I personally saw them use our site to enter such a score. I can only assume that people having problems might have been entering scores with commas, and it may be that this confuses our database. Please try again and if you still have problems e-mail me directly and we'll look into it. Thanks for the heads up on the issue.

[This message has been edited by Nyx (edited 08 February 2001).]
__________________
Compete in the Space Empires IV World Championship at www.twingalaxies.com.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old February 9th, 2001, 12:58 AM
geoschmo's Avatar

geoschmo geoschmo is offline
National Security Advisor
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Ohio
Posts: 8,450
Thanks: 0
Thanked 5 Times in 2 Posts
geoschmo is on a distinguished road
Default Re: TG contest question

I was in fact using comma's, 80 mil will do me but your gonna have to bump that up for Drake and Tomgs, laf.

[This message has been edited by geoschmo (edited 08 February 2001).]
__________________
I used to be somebody but now I am somebody else
Who I'll be tomorrow is anybody's guess
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old February 9th, 2001, 01:06 AM
Seawolf's Avatar

Seawolf Seawolf is offline
Second Lieutenant
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: New York, New York USA
Posts: 480
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Seawolf is on a distinguished road
Default Re: TG contest question

Nyx,

Thanks for the link and the info but they want too much personal information on me to join. Good luck to all those that play in it.

------------------
Seawolf on the prowl
__________________
Seawolf on the prowl
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old February 9th, 2001, 02:20 AM

Drake Drake is offline
Sergeant
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Wheaton, IL
Posts: 202
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Drake is on a distinguished road
Default Re: TG contest question

quote:
Originally posted by geoschmo:
I was in fact using comma's, 80 mil will do me but your gonna have to bump that up for Drake and Tomgs, laf.


Yep, I'll need more than 80mil. I'm sure I won't get near 200mil, so that should be safe.

-Drake
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old February 9th, 2001, 08:42 AM
Puke's Avatar

Puke Puke is offline
Lieutenant General
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: california
Posts: 2,961
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Puke is on a distinguished road
Default Re: TG contest question

I dont think this is the right quad type for the contest, but the principal is the same, and this was my first try. doing this should be Banned in the rules. there is nothing to stop someone from doing it with even more planets than this, and whats more, there is nothing to stop someone from value-improving all the planets to 200%, and building SWs around each star, and convert all asteroids to planets, and convert all atmospheres before saving the map.

I dont know how you could really enforce a rule against doing this though, since it would be just as easy to subtily manipulate a map, just by converting a handfull of atmospheres or improving a handfull of planets, you could not really tell.

there is the honor system that people may use, but you can only vouch for your own convictions. you could make one standard map for all entrants to use, but then everyone would play a race perfectly suited to that map and it would not be much of a contest.

The best thing i can come up with is this: every contest applicant sends in their race file, and the contest admin sends back a gamefile made under the proper conditions that the applicant must play. this will allow random quadrants, and eliminate this abuse. to save the admins work, maybe you could generate the map by using the command line Version of the game, i dont know if that is possible. or you could have a '1-game-per-week-per-person' rule.
__________________
...the green, sticky spawn of the stars
(with apologies to H.P.L.)
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:43 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©1999 - 2025, Shrapnel Games, Inc. - All Rights Reserved.