Challenge Match

[Slynky]

Originally posted by Gryphin:
Slynky I don't think they will fall for that.
You are just trying to suck them into a false sence of security.

Somehow, I don't think they will fall for any tricks like that... .

[Gryphin]

Slynky the 21 inch monitor is belongs to Pooh Star,(my sweet heart). It was a hand me down from her X. He felt he needed something bigger.

It is both a blessing and a curse. At reading distance from the screen I can only see about 5 inches across, (tunnel vison). That is why Pooh Star had to find the Master Password field.

How's the game so far?

[Slynky]

Greetings all: (well, all the participants and our illustrious map maker )

There seems to be a problem with the map and the setup.

All the empires of the Black Hole Alliance have now compared their starting positions and determined starting setup has a fault in it.

You know how, when you start out sometimes, you receive "free" scans of nearby systems? Well, I am virtually sure that one empire is inter-mixed with another empire of the opposing team. In fact, it appears one of the enemy homeworlds is completely surrounded by one of our empires.

That doesn't seem like a fair start for that person especially since another of our alliance members is only 4 systems away from both of them.

It also doesn't seem to reflect the map setup and starting positions we wanted to have for the challenge match.

I suspect the problem is that we joined in a different order than our proposed alliances. By that, I mean all of one alliance should join and then the other. It appears empires are assigned to starting points in some sort of contiguous manner.

Anyway, what do you guys think? To me, it only seems fair, especially the one empire of the Olden Ones caught in "inside" one of our (and a second empire so close), to exit the game, start another one, join in alliance order and generate a new map.

Comments?

[geoschmo]

Actually the player you have surounded has the same view of a couple systems around and we had determined the same thing ourselves and notified Gryphin. He is going to fix it tonight and restart the game.

We are in agreement it's not really fair, although we thought it was unfair to your guy who was going to be picked apart one homeworld at a time.

Edit: If your theory as to the cause is correct, and it sounds reasonable, Gryphin can fix it my merely changing the number of the starting positions on the map. We don't need to be reordered in the the game.

Although, he may want to make a completely new map, or at least make six new starting positions so we don't all have knowledge of each others positions from this mistart.

Geoschmo

[ April 29, 2003, 18:11: Message edited by: geoschmo ]

[Slynky]

Well, I guess it's a toss-up on just who was going to chew on whom. With another empire just 4 systems away, your person would be in trouble (unless, of course, another empire in your alliance were close by...and if that's the case, then the starting homeworld positions, which were supposed to put 3 empires on one side of the map and 3 on the other side of the map weren't done as well as it should have been...since there would be 4 empires on the left side of the map).

At any rate, everyone agrees that the starting homeworld placement got messed up. Are we to assume it has to do with the order we joined the game? If so, I suggest geo withdraw from the game and then re-join. That should put us in alliance order.

Oh, and IF I was correct about there being 4 empires on the left, the homeworld starting positions should be modified a bit.

Perhaps a new map should be rolled up. I say a new map because it's possible a person could have chosen Ancient abilities, now has a copy of the map (and planets and warp lines) and can then turn around and use those 1,000 points somewhere else while keeping a copy of the galaxy information. Not that anyone would cheat...but just to remove all doubt (after all, that's why we asked for a map generator... )

Comments?

[geoschmo]

It's easier for Gryphin to just reorder the map starting positions or make a new map entirely then for me to withdraw and rejoin.

And I don't think anyone should or needs to be changing their empires. Gryphin can just restart the game using the exsisting empire files we've already uploaded.

Geoschmo

[ April 29, 2003, 18:37: Message edited by: geoschmo ]

[Slynky]

Originally posted by geoschmo:
It's easier for Gryphin to just reorder the map starting positions or make a new map entirely then for me to withdraw and rejoin.

And I don't think anyone should or needs to be changing their empires. Gryphin can just restart the game using the exsisting empire files we've already uploaded.

Geoschmo

That's fine if it works that way. And, in this matter, I show (more of) my ignorance. You see, I'm worried that all you can do is specify that a particular system is a starting place for an empire. And that SE4 will just grab the empires and put them in any of the designated places without regard to what team they are on.

NOW,IF a person can specify that a particular system is a homeworld position AND that it should be used for a particular empire or team, then obviously the map can be adjusted and no one needs to leave the game and return. BUT, is that the way it works? I'm only asking because I don't know and just assumed all one could do was mark a system as a starting location.

[ April 29, 2003, 18:45: Message edited by: Slynky ]