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April 27th, 2003, 09:12 PM
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Re: basic questions on armors
Effectively I have not understood all, as I know *only barely* the unmodded & TDM tech tree.
Thank you JLS&QuarianRex.
JLS : I suppose that armored plating is a type of armor belonging to a mod?
QuarianRex : I have understood that EA ability do not cumulate. So what is this 40 pts discount given by structure? In your example the DD does 60 which are all absorbed. 20 comes from EA, but the others.
Also you confirm that putting 10 EA II would be stupid (it is just an example ok)? They do not cumulate really?
Also, which armor is destroyed first? EA or standard one?
Finally, does EA are really of interest? Suppressing 20 pts of damage is quite low no?
Thank you all of you taking the time to explain things.
Pocus.
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April 27th, 2003, 09:54 PM
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Re: basic questions on armors
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Effectively I have not understood all, as I know *only barely* the unmodded & TDM tech tree.
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That’s why I through in some Armor Lay out suggestions along with a brief dialog
Basic Structure Armor, Ablative Armor, Crystal, Organic armor as well as the Emissive Armor component.
Do still apply from my presentation.
Ships with a lot of 10kt armor may also take a long time to repair after getting smashed in combat, though. So have a good repair Tech and some Fleet Repair Ships on hand; Destroyer Hull or better for se4 Based games
and you can also use all Transport Hulls in Proportion based games
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Thank you JLS&QuarianRex.
JLS : I suppose that armored plating is a type of armor belonging to a mod?
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Your welcome
Yes, Proportions Based Mods.
Armored Plating is PvKs design, and it seems very realistic.
I gave you the Link earlier to Proportions. So you may sample Armored Plateing, just use the Weapon Mount Menu to scroll the scale.
EDIT: Added neat little Greamlin Faces 
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April 27th, 2003, 10:56 PM
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Re: basic questions on armors
I have already the Proportion mod, but I just glanced at it. I really like the Space Odyssey feeling, but my 2 main problems with the mod are:
weak AI, and as of now I only play solo. (you will head me toward AIC mod I suppose?)
slower pace than the already slow pace of SE IV. I really wonder how many months you need to complete a PBEM game with the mod. Generally my stars! and dominions pbem games dont Last more than 6 months, and often between 3 and 4. It seems that Proportion mod ask for one year of playing!
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April 27th, 2003, 11:25 PM
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Re: basic questions on armors
Actually no.
I misunderstood, I thought you were referring to plate armor, and it went in the direction from there. Sorry, I hope all was not a waist, in the Posts to you
You have already played Proportions and found it slow.
Wow, I/we find Proportions plays very smooth. The AI is very good and is balanced by a bonus choice as with se4
AI Campaign however does currently play Slow
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Research Facilities as well as AI Trade and Research Agreements help speed things up in most se4 games.
Have you tried the Computer Bonus Choice for Base se4 or Proportions? When set to none, it restricts the AI a bit. There by helping new Players cope.
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Some time if you would like we could have a PBEM.
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April 28th, 2003, 02:05 AM
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Re: basic questions on armors
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Also, which armor is destroyed first? EA or standard one?
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Which component gets hit first is random, but based off of how many hit points each component has. Armor components with the least amount of HPs are more likely to be hit first (though not guaranteed). So, regular Armor tends to be destroyed before Emissive Armor.
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April 28th, 2003, 03:14 AM
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Re: basic questions on armors
Does anyone use emissive armor?
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April 28th, 2003, 04:32 AM
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Re: basic questions on armors
I have never used it. The Last I heard it was still broken.
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