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Old May 6th, 2003, 10:52 PM
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If I can save turn 100; during the turn, as I explained.

And then latter restore turn 100; to it full glory.

Then how is this different from you above quote?
Because the only way to save turn 100 is to hit end turn. That is the only way to save any simultaneous turn in Se4. Once you hit end turn it saves a .plr file for turn 100. That .plr file is used by the host to process the next turn. You can reopen turn 100, but you will be back at the begining. Everything you did the first time you opened turn 100 will be gone. You will have to do it again.

If you are running the host turns on your pc you can backup the files for turn 100, process the turn and then open turn 101, see what happened, and then restore the backup for turn 100 and open it again. But again you will be back at the begining of turn 100. You cannot open turn 100 "in the middle" and have the orders you already gave still be there.

That is what people are asking for the ability to do. We all know how to back up previous turns so we can reopen them and play them all over again form the begining. That doesn't help. What we want to be able to do is stop in the middle of turn 100, save it, go eat lunch and come bac in the afternoon and finish giving our empire orders. That we cannot do.

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THANK YOU....

I SEE THE LIGHT....

So we are both right
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go eat lunch and come bac in the afternoon and finish giving our empire orders. That we cannot do.
Not to be a pest, but why can't you just leave the unit on EAT and then finish the turn latter.

Never mind, jut kidding

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The scene:

GK has just changed to go out for dinner and night of drunken debauchery... but he has some time to play his PBW game.

Starts the game and up pops the log screen. Events? What's this? Oh, just the warp point I opened. Politics? Some interesting stuff there. Combat? Hmm, good news and bad. Research? Okay those projects are done, better add these things. Click off the log, go to designs and make some new fighters and capital ships based on the new tech. Okay, back to the log. 3 new colonies. Get them up and running.

Now system by system. GK goes through 4 systems making changes when suddenly... "Whats that dear? Time to go? Already? Just let me save this game."

Save the game?

THE GAME WON'T SAVE!!! And Gk still has 6 systems to make changes in and those diplomacy Messages to respond to!

Three choices:
Leave the computer running and hope no one fiddles with it before noon tomorrow! Hah!
Quit the game and start over tomorrow. *groan*
End the game even though the changes are only half done! Naddachance!

I hope this clarifies what we are trying to say JLS.
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JLS, let me explain it this way...

I am playing a simultaneous turn game of SE4. Doesn't matter whether it's PBW, PBEM, LAN, or Hotseat on my own pc, they are all the same. Simultaneous.

By turn 100 I have a fairly large empire, let's say 200 planets. 300 ships, and I share the quadrant with 5 other empires, two of which I am at war with. Lot's of stuff going on. I am a very busy little emperor.

Since I am complely anal and I don't trust the Ai ministers to do anything I have to check every one of my 200 planets to make sure they are building what I want them to, answer all the Messages I get from other empires, and direct my fleets in their battles with the enemy. All this takes a lot of time. Let's say two hours, cause I am slow and have incredible attention to detail.

The problem is in real life I have a wife and kids and they don't really care whether or not my western sector is exposed to Xiati attack, or whether the space yard on Tarus IVA is stuck on repeat build of an obsolete ship design. They want to use the computer.

The only way I am going to get two straight hours of computer time is if it starts at 1 in the morning. I can't simply do half the work and walk away and hope my ten year old doesn't screw something up in between bouts of Final Fantasy IV can I? So I want to be able to do a little at a time, saving as I go and in the end I will have a .plr file ready for the next turn.

You "method" doesn't allow me to do that. All it allows me to do is go back and start over from the begining each time I open the turn. I can do that now without backing up anything.

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Yes, thanks Grandpa Kim

I am Irish, and a little slow

[ May 06, 2003, 22:06: Message edited by: JLS ]
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Gee, I thought I was dense, Geo; You have some space yard on Tarus IVA, stuck on repeat build of old obsolete ship designs

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