Retrofit Bug During PBW Games

[Wardad]

I ran into this problem before and had my ships retrofited to my opponants design.

I worked around it by:
FIRST placing the new design in a planets build que. It does not have to be built or worked on and can be removed on another turn.
NEXT I gave the order for retrofiting.

I wonder if this technique would work now?

[Stone Mill]

Geo- you are the Man , as usual. Thanks for your excellent research and workaround suggestions, which sound plausable.

Wardad, you suggestion sounds easy enough. I too wonder if it would work...

[geoschmo]

Originally posted by Wardad:
I ran into this problem before and had my ships retrofited to my opponants design.

I worked around it by:
FIRST placing the new design in a planets build que. It does not have to be built or worked on and can be removed on another turn.
NEXT I gave the order for retrofiting.

I wonder if this technique would work now?

That probably would work. Being in a build queue seems to "anchor" the design and make sure Se4 finds an index for it. As shown by the fact that two empires can make designs the same turn and both can build them succesfully. It doesn't suffer from the same symptom as retrofits.

Thanks Wardad, that's three workarounds. And that one should work all the time and not need any pre-planning. The only drawback being the need to have a free space yard slot. Not a sure thing in every game, especially early on.

Geoschmo

[Grandpa Kim]

From Geoschmo:

The only drawback being the need to have a free space yard slot.

Maybe not. I think you just need to place it in a queue. You can have 20 research centres in front of it. Once it's there for a turn, it's "initialized" and can be safely pulled.

Oh, and I will look for an example of the disappearing unmothball order.

(Edit: punctuation)

[ May 09, 2003, 01:25: Message edited by: Grandpa Kim ]

[Wardad]

Actually, the only drawback is..... not Editing Your Design.

I imagine that pulling the design out of a build que to edit it could cause problems for prior retrofit orders.

[Krsqk]

I had the same problem with unmothballing in Paranoia. I finally decided I really didn't want the ships anyway and scrapped them. I just figured it was user error, although I tried for nearly a game year to get it to work. It was probably ~25 turns ago, though, so I can't reproduce it.

[bearclaw]

I've experiance Both of these problems. The retrofitting problem fixes itself the next turn as explained below. But I've had the unmothballing thing very rarely, it's happened enough that I try to avoid mothballing sometimes.