"Real" ringworlds

[Fyron]

Sigh. I think you need to take some new philosophy classes.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen". Faith is not about the things you can prove, but about things you do not perceive, perhaps things that cannot be perceived

That was my point. You are implying that there is something wrong with the quote because it only involves sight, but I was trying to explain that it involves other forms of perception too. The post following the quote was not focusing on sight alone, just using it as a synonym.

ok, now that i have that down:
he was saying that there are thing's that perhaps cannot be perceived, i missed the perhaps, and i was saying that everything can be percieved, although not with our physical senses. they require faith. like i said, faith is a working bootstrap, which also is why scientists have problems with it.

[Fyron]

Narf, please go read my post on "faith"...

[narf poit chez BOOM]

my original reply, which you replied to, was not to you. it was to that first qoute in my Last post

[ May 21, 2003, 07:32: Message edited by: narf poit chez BOOM ]

[Fyron]

It does not matter who it was directed at. You still need to learn what faith really is. You are using it inappropriately in this context.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

read it again. you define faith differantly than i do. i know that if i have faith that i will get an answer, i will get an answer. that is verification.

[Fyron]

I define faith correctly.