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May 15th, 2003, 05:16 AM
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Re: Woe, to be an Ice-ish race...
*shrugs at the people who pointlessly exploit AI weaknesses even though they can usually beat them anyways*
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May 15th, 2003, 05:18 AM
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Re: Woe, to be an Ice-ish race...
Well, you don't do that unless you're playing at 0 RP and taking a racial trait and the AI's on 5000 RP with high bonus. Then, you do what it takes.  Or just start over with easier settings.
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May 15th, 2003, 05:33 AM
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Re: Woe, to be an Ice-ish race...
Ice planets are a seriously unbalanced.
Picking them is a serious handicap in the early game if you can't get another colonization tech quickly.
Those "advantages" are just players adapting to the existing misbalance.
No, in the stock game there's nothing that places ice planets in the edge of a system.
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May 15th, 2003, 05:52 AM
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Re: Woe, to be an Ice-ish race...
andres, some people plain like ice planets. not all people are gamey, especially not myself.
yes, ice may be disbalanced. but there is another dimension - if you can win on ice planets... well, woe to your enemies once you move to rocks  or gases 
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May 17th, 2003, 05:20 AM
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Re: Woe, to be an Ice-ish race...
What I meant is that I consider the disbalance to be a bug.
If you can't get another colonization tech by trade or analizing captured ships you will be in disadvantage. Rock and Gas natives can also get another colonization tech quickly and keep their advantage.
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May 17th, 2003, 06:09 AM
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Re: Woe, to be an Ice-ish race...
Test game:
Out of 752 planets:
172 were Gas (22.8%)
215 were ice (28.5%)
365 were Rock (48.5%)
Same conditions, another test:
Out of 737 planets:
168 were gas (22.8%)
360 were rock (48.8%)
209 were ice (28.3%)
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May 17th, 2003, 06:14 AM
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Re: Woe, to be an Ice-ish race...
That would explain why I'm only finding 25% colonizable planets in one of my current PBW games (no trading).  I knew there was a reason to take rock. 
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