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May 28th, 2003, 10:15 PM
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Re: Roleplaying Diplomacy
Yep, you are right.
I will do exactly that.
They have been at war for quite a while now. I sent them Messages several times about making peace and they still "brotherly" with me. Even once they both answer that they would sue for peace, but they didn't, the war continued the same.
Now the Jraenar Empire have entered the picture, so Xiati now have my empire in the south, the Krill (at war) on the right, and the Jraenar on the left.
The future looks grim for those little Xiati colonies.... 
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May 29th, 2003, 07:56 AM
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Re: Roleplaying Diplomacy
if your not at peace with the jreanor, would attacking them constitute helping the other guy?
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May 29th, 2003, 03:29 PM
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Re: Roleplaying Diplomacy
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Originally posted by narf poit chez BOOM:
if your not at peace with the jreanor, would attacking them constitute helping the other guy?
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The problem is that I'm roleplaying a Warrior/Honourable race, so I think the first thing to do for such a race is to send a trade treaty offer upon first contact, right?
I did so, and the Jraenar accepted. I finish the Last turn with a trade and research traty with them, and they are "brotherly" towards me. I guess the AI only becomes agressive when there are systems in dispute, and the Jraenar is like 5 systems away from my borders.
The Krill have started kicking some Xiati lower rear, and the Xiati doesn't have any treaty with the Jraenar, so it shouldn't be long untill the Xiati finds themselves fighting a two front war.
Now, what will be the diplomatic implications of this?
The Xiati will ask me to go to war against the Jraenar, and I'm not sure what is the honourable thing to do. I guess I have known the Xiati longer, and a Partnership treaty indeed require to breake any trade treaty with the partner's enemies, right?
SE4 diplomacy might be limited, but it is amazing the moral decissions that we have to make.
By the way, playing SE4 taking seriously your race's atributes is far more engaging than just trying to conquer the quadrant.
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May 30th, 2003, 12:30 AM
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Re: Roleplaying Diplomacy
Not that I know of Hunk.
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May 30th, 2003, 06:38 AM
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Re: Roleplaying Diplomacy
it sounds like your race is honerable/warrior, as you seem to be playing with that trait more important.
your hypothetical situation: maybe, if they ask you to break the t&r, you should first ask the jreaner to stop attacking, tell the ixiatl what your doing, then break the treaty if the jreaner don't stop.
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May 30th, 2003, 09:16 PM
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Re: Roleplaying Diplomacy
I think Narf's on the right track here. Your longstanding friendship/alliance with the Xiati makes them (essentially) an extension of your own empire. If they are attacked, you should respond the same as if it was you that had been.
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May 30th, 2003, 09:24 PM
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Re: Roleplaying Diplomacy
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I guess I have known the Xiati longer, and a Partnership treaty indeed require to breake any trade treaty with the partner's enemies, right?
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There is no technical reason why you can't have a partnership with two races who are at war with each other...
Its all politics there. 
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