this is a thread to attract SE4 forumers to the first Dungeon Oddessy roleplay thread

[narf poit chez BOOM]

i'll be busy most of today; expect me back monday.

[Krsqk]

I'll be gone Sun. PM through Tues. late PM.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

ok, here's a theory of mine: any character so powerfull that they cannot be taken out by either an angry mob or a skilled team of professonals makes itself redundant. for example: spiderman is not to powerfull. either a mob or a team could kill him. the silver surfer is to powerfull. i only saw the cartoon and read a book, but he can take out an entire defence system. why are silver surfer type character's bad? because they tend to generate ever more powerfull character's, since the easiest way to make a nemisis is to make a more powerfull character.

so, if a character is superpowerfull, it should be because of the support system of their civilization - the effort of many.

yep, Jack, i'm wondering how you feel about a limit on your character's powers, since your's is the closest to transforming to a silver surfer.

as always, the above is up for debat.

[Jack Simth]

Actually, a team of professionals could take him down - he'd be back, given time, but he could be taken down - it would take something/someone putting a damp on energy conduits; a 'circle breaker' of some kind. Arthur or D would scarecly notice - they are used to drawing on their own energies. Jack, on the other hand, would suddenly find himself a spectator.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

so, your limit on the jems is Jack not having much of a personal power pool?

wouldn't be nessasary, if using more than a certain number of them required equipment that required a technical base - large number's of people needed to equip a character to deal with large number's of people. plus, it would eleminate 'monolithic' character's.

that's just my opinion, though.

didn't Krsqk say he'd be back yesterday?

[ October 23, 2003, 04:20: Message edited by: narf poit chez BOOM ]

[Jack Simth]

Oh, he's got a normal personal power pool (not normal for a mage - it hasn't been exercised - but normal for a person) - it's just that he isn't used to power conservation. Someone who has all the power production of the Hoover Dam available to play with, from a society where a great many people have comperable supplies, won't even know what a flourescent bulb is, much less how to build/use it. If such a person is suddenly reduced to a generator hooked up to a bicycle, they are going to have problems.

As to limits on how many can be accessed at one time, Jack has already hinted at it a few times - he called his second ring a "spare" when he lent it to Arthur; the implication being that it isn't in active use. He mentioned that he maintains a connection to his Master's gem - a connection isn't necessarily an active conduit, just the possibility of one. He mentioned a safety mechanisim to prevent overloading the conduit; a single mage is limited to however much energy that mage can safely channel. More than that, and they go boom, much as a modern electrical transformer will when overloaded (there is one near my house - I've heard it go boom on a few occasions). More mages can channel more power, but they can't send it through one mage to shape; instead, they must turn it seperately to the same task. For burning the lead, Jack is actually planning on going boom, building a spare body to inhabit beforehand. In the short interum till he returns to the new one, he won't be able to channel much; it's difficult to affect the physical world when one is dead.

Yes, Krsqk did mention he'd be back yesterday, didn't he? It could simply be timzone differences combined with very tired after getting home late. Nothing to worry about for a few days.

[ October 23, 2003, 05:27: Message edited by: Jack Simth ]

[narf poit chez BOOM]

looks like you have a better handle on it than i do.

i guess my problem is i don't think about these things untill there staring me in the face.

[Jack Simth]

Actually, I hadn't thought about it until you mentioned it; it's just that the seeds of the fix were already there. Had I not specifically mentioned the hints, they could have meant anything, and been safely ignored. For example, "spare" only means that it isn't in use, not that it can't be in use at the same time. Likewise, maintaining a connection doesn't imply that the connection isn't being used any more than it implies the connection is being used. Jack had mentioned the safety on the conduit, but it could be any kind of conduit as stated in the thread, including an external energy conduit that doesn't cause much of a problem when overloaded. Hints can go in multiple directions quite easily. Jack had been planning on losing the flesh to burn the lead, but that was initially due to energy capture efficency problems discussed earlier in this thread.

In short, keep mentioning them when you see them. I don't actually have too terribly tight of a grip on things - I'm just good at grabbing them whenever the need arises. Untill that need surfaces, I just let them float in case anyone else would like to grab one.

[Krsqk]

I is back. I is "tarred." I is bizzy tonight entering about four weeks' worth of grades which I has been procrastinidating fer a while. *smacks self* Bad me. *smack smack*

However, I am sure I'll find some excuse to take a break and...uh..."refresh my mental energies" and get a post done. Kind of like I'm procrastinidating right now.

[Krsqk]

Okay, so the only mental exercise I had Last night was patting my wife's head and telling her she'll be feeling better soon and pretending to be able to fix headaches. ( <-- That's for both her and me.) I'll try again tonight.