POLL: Backstabbing

Gryphin · #1 June 6th, 2003, 11:29 PM

I don't think I could personaly handle broken treaties without previously agreed upon steps such as:
Remove all ships from each others systems
X number of turns before ending the treaty
etc..
I guess it is a good thing I only play against hand picked people.

Some how I knew I could trust Slynky. Something about his behavior in the forum. Can't place my finger on it.

CNCRaymond · #2 June 6th, 2003, 11:40 PM

Those poll results are alarming at best. Your all a bunch of Back Stabbers! You scare me.

DavidG · #3 June 6th, 2003, 11:41 PM

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Originally posted by Pax:
Your "clean slate" reference is in direct contradiction of the quote above.

I think you might want to read the Posts a bit more carefully before you go on a rant. There is no contradiction here. I'd elaborate but I feel the effort would be a waste.

[ June 06, 2003, 22:43: Message edited by: DavidG ]

DavidG · #4 June 6th, 2003, 11:48 PM

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Originally posted by Pax:

quote:
Originally posted by DavidG:
Gee thanks for telling us that for the 100th time. IMO anyone that claims they do not try to win is kidding themselves. You know it is possible to play to win and for fun at the same time.

Here's a trick for you: define "win".

The "win" I look for is a fun game. If I have fun, then I "won" -- even if my race is obliterated.

No you lost. You may have had fun but you lost. It's going to be pretty hard to have a relevant discussion if you are going to make up your own definitions for words.

Katchoo · #5 June 7th, 2003, 12:14 AM

Don't trust anyone.

That's how I walk into every game. It's also the best way to not get disappointed in whatever transpires during the game. Afterall, if you expect the worst, the only thing people can do is impress you.

Granted, if you're in a long standing partnership with someone and they unexpectedly cut relations and attack you, you'll feel some measure of hurt. That's natural.

Most people here though aren't out to hurt other players purposely. Most cases of backstabbing can be seen comming too (eg ship movement) so backstabbing can also be seen as a consequence of not paying attention to the activites around you. Afterall, if you see your neighboor building up a large fleet near your border with no particular reason behind it, then you better blow the dust off your defenses just in case.

gravey101 · #6 June 7th, 2003, 01:40 AM

Not sure I have ever really backstabbed a trusting and trusted ally, alhtough I guess I might. I have jumped all over unsuspecting neighbours early in the game, and have upset people by doing this. I have been backstabbed, attacked, you name it, but never take it personally - it's just a game. We do seem to have 2 different camps, those who play purely to win, and those who view it as a role playing experience. I definitely started in the play-to-win camp, but after having won my share of games, these days I am more likely to try to create an interesting situaion politically than to go all out for the win. Strict role playing doesnt really interest me but can understand the attraction. I'm sure I carry over some feelings from game to game, but I try to start each game as cleanly as I can, but without a doubt, certain players tendencies do influence one's future behavior. The only people I don't care to replay are those who take events in the game too personally, those who drop out of games, those who cheat, and those who jump at the chance to label as cheats anyone who doesnt agree with their vision of how the game should be played. Even the most vicious of backstabs would not stop me playing with a player again. In fact, I might adnire him all the more for it :-)

DavidG · #7 June 7th, 2003, 02:27 AM

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Originally posted by gravey101:
We do seem to have 2 different camps, those who play purely to win, and those who view it as a role playing experience.

I for the most part agree with everything you said but I think this point (Above) is a bit more of a grey area. I suspect most people that know me would put me in the play to win camp but I think most of us (me included) are somewhere in between. I don't think most play 'purely' to win. We play for fun and winning is fun. Playing and losing is fun too. (wining is more fun

) Winning the same way over and over can get a bit dull though. I have for example picked racial traits that I know are not ideal and attempted to win using such a race. (ie an Organic Race that only uses organic weapons) I guess that would be called role playing.