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June 9th, 2003, 09:23 PM
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Re: Other X\'s
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Originally posted by Chief Engineer Erax:
Would you consider EFS a 4X game ?
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Who?
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Originally posted by Chief Engineer Erax:
How about SMAC ?
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Yes, definately, and Civ before and after it as well.code:
4X != Space Opera
Or perhapscode:
4x > Space Opera
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June 9th, 2003, 09:48 PM
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Re: Other X\'s
EFS = Emperor of the Fading Suns. Multi-planet ground combat with a minor space element, set in a 'Dune-like' universe. Great game, moddable too.
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June 10th, 2003, 10:06 AM
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Re: Other X\'s
Actually, it is:
eXplore
eXpand
eXploit
eXterminate
The order actually matters. 
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June 10th, 2003, 10:36 AM
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Re: Other X\'s
EFS is a superbly designed game and could be the best if it weren't for all the bugs. The game is almost unplayable in single player unless you have lots of houserules to follow. Even then the AI is totally crappy. MP is where EFS shines and even then many houserules are needed not to use blatant bugs.
My two wetest dreams when it comes to followup computergames is EFS 2 and Master of Magic 2.
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June 10th, 2003, 12:41 PM
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Re: Other X\'s
Ooooo, Master of Magic. How could I forget about MoM ?
I agree, EFS was good but it could have been better. My biggest complaint were the slow turns in the late game, but maybe those wouldn't be a problem on today's computers. Hmmm, have to re-install it sometime.
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June 10th, 2003, 12:55 PM
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Re: Other X\'s
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Originally posted by Chief Engineer Erax:
Would you consider EFS a 4X game ? How about SMAC ?
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Sorry Erax, I don't know these games.
Hell I didn't even know about SE III until August of 2000 when a friend mentioned it at the former OPN forums.
Rebellion and IG might also be considered 4 X games as well.
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June 10th, 2003, 12:59 PM
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Re: Other X\'s
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Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
Actually, it is:
eXplore
eXpand
eXploit
eXterminate
The order actually matters.
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You are the first person I have ever met that has said this but it make perfect sense. 
[ June 10, 2003, 11:59: Message edited by: Atrocities ]
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