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June 16th, 2003, 07:16 PM
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Re: The SEIV Community
A typical post-game wrap-up...
A: “I wanted to thank you for so expertly kicking my butt in that Last game, but you seemed to have missed a spot on my left buttock. Would you mind taking care of it, if it isn’t too much trouble?”
B: *in British accent* “Sewww sorrray...” *whump, whump, WHUMP!* “Is that better, my good man?”
A: “Smashing!” *admires his new bruises* “A fine job indeed.”
Slick.
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June 16th, 2003, 07:26 PM
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Re: The SEIV Community
Certainly didn't mean to slight you there Slykny, I basically just cut and pasted from my first post. I totally agree with all your comments regarding sportsmanship and also Erax's POV regarding the maturity level of most players. One of the things that most impressed me about this community was the responses to this thread. There are 8 pages of responses here! All insightful, helpful, and above all so very compassionate. This kind of response to a friend in need is the kind of thing that truly sets this community above all other gaming forums I have ever seen. Sportsmanship may be the German chocolate cake that is so desirable, but the humanity of this community is the coconut frosting that makes the whole thing absolutely delicious. Everyone deserves a hearty pat on the back and an "at a boy!"
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June 16th, 2003, 08:02 PM
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Re: The SEIV Community
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Originally posted by Slynky:
Us boardgamers, it seems to me, have always been very competitive. In some "face-to-face" games, I've even had opponents get upset and quit (and even throw counters from the board).
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Ditto. I also have had people cheat right in front of me - like, really, I was not going to notice? I am smart enough to kick your *** in a game with a 100-page rulebook, but not to notice your are cheating? In either case, I never willingly played with them again.
On the other hand, I used to go to a local wargaming group's meetings once a month, 9AM-10PM on a Saturday. 50 men playing dozens of different wargames in a hotel ballroom. No incidences of the behavior mentioned above. Lots of: “ I think you will probably lose the game if you make that move. Here is how the game works. Okay, now take your Last turn over and see how it goes.” It is called mentoring, which is a relationship based on trust and mutual interest. And it is absolutely essential to fostering a community
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[ June 16, 2003, 19:23: Message edited by: geckomlis ]
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June 16th, 2003, 08:38 PM
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Re: The SEIV Community
ive mentioned all of that in diffeent places and topics. i dont have loud words to say except that it is the only community ive been in for so long. never seen a more mature community.
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June 17th, 2003, 01:33 AM
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Re: The SEIV Community
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Originally posted by geckomlis:
quote: Originally posted by Slynky:
Us boardgamers, it seems to me, have always been very competitive. In some "face-to-face" games, I've even had opponents get upset and quit (and even throw counters from the board).
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Ditto. I also have had people cheat right in front of me - like, really, I was not going to notice? I am smart enough to kick your *** in a game with a 100-page rulebook, but not to notice your are cheating? In either case, I never willingly played with them again.
On the other hand, I used to go to a local wargaming group's meetings once a month, 9AM-10PM on a Saturday. 50 men playing dozens of different wargames in a hotel ballroom. No incidences of the behavior mentioned above. Lots of: “ I think you will probably lose the game if you make that move. Here is how the game works. Okay, now take your Last turn over and see how it goes.” It is called mentoring, which is a relationship based on trust and mutual interest. And it is absolutely essential to fostering a community
Gecko Well, that IS a breath of fresh air. As my experience has been, most people take advantage of rule-inexperience.
Your example reminds me of Origins, though. Imagine pick-up-gaming all night long. On tables in gaming rooms, hotel rooms, in the cafeteria or "eating establishment", and in the hallways leading to rooms. You can meet some really die-hard gamers at a convention like that!
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June 17th, 2003, 01:53 AM
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Re: The SEIV Community
I've noticed that with a few other game communitites, too. The more thought, strategy, intelligence and sophistication involved in a game, the more civil and interesting the players tend to be.
The dorks tend to be the players who are there because they think the game is the latest cool thing. Fortunately, they tend to wander to the latest fad after a while, which is another reason to stick with the best games rather than the latest flashiest games.
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June 17th, 2003, 02:27 AM
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Re: The SEIV Community
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Originally posted by Taera:
never seen a more mature community.
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I agree although sometimes it seems so mature it makes me feel like a 2 year old. I seen things posted (only a few times ) that if directed towards me would make me totally blow my lid but they are always handled very properly.
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