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Thanks, its good to know, but shouldn't there have been some grapic showing the destruction. Love the monsters, they took out two planets that I thought could defense themselves, plus a few of my ships. All the other races are hard press countering the monster threat, neat. 
You got to love them/monsters to hate them.
 
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		There should have been an explosion. Was there not an explosion? That is all that happens when a ship self destructs on boarding. 
 
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Maybe one did not appear because you have animations off and fast tactical combat on? 
  
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		Really enjoying both stm 1.6.6 AND Major Systems Map, a slight suggestion tho Tnarg: Currently I've played Dominion, Breen and Tholia. Now I dont really want balance as thats the great part about trek, BUT, the poor, poor Breen! So few planets to colonize, a sneaky backdoor for the Dominion to waltz thru! Cardassians, Ferengi and Tholians on the other borders! Phew! 
Perhaps a few more Ice/Oxygen planets for the breen to play with?       
1.6.6 Bugs
 
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in 1.5.1 Klingon cloaking was better than Romulan Cloaking, has this been changed? Taking into account both Klingon and Romulan Advanced Cloaking II Roms could be detected at 5, Klings at 6.
 
*sigh* Atrocities this is heaven, coming for a long since frustrated BoTF player. I know i keep saying this but you just keep on making this mod better!
 
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 Name                  := Support Craft 
Group                 := Support Craft 
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