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Old July 10th, 2003, 05:50 AM

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Note: One reason why I'm writing this is that I hate to see incorrect statements about the current situation in S.I. and leave them uncorrected. However, to really appreciate what's going on here and thereby be qualified to give opinions and comment on the situation, you really need to understand all that's happened, to see the big picture so to speak, and that's impossible without a sort of chronology of events.

Continuing my story...

Okay, we heard it first on CNN that Canberra had just authorized warships to evacuate Australian citizens, and we watched an interview in which Alexander Downer, the Ozzie Minister of Foreign Affairs, said that the ships would also evacuate any other foreign national who needed evacuating.

As it turned out, when the ships arrived, they took people from rich world countries, i.e. Australia, New Zealand, U.K., U.S. etc. but they refused to take anyone from China, Taiwan, Philippines, Malaysia, India etc. They did take the two dozen or so Fijian soldiers who were in S.I. as "peace monitors" under the U.N. banner. As I recall, they were among the first to board, complete in U.N. colors. I was there at the wharf. I'm Malaysian by the way, but I haven't lived in Malaysia for a long, long time. The wife of one of my colleagues, who was pregnant at that time, was really pissed about this, but I kind of expected it. Anyway, I did specifically request to be allowed to stay behind. I thought it was all great fun

At the same time, more complicating factors: we heard news that the Western Province, backed by Isabel Province and Choiseul Province were making noises about declaring themselves independent of the Solomon Islands. As I said, they had no love of the Malaitan political elite in Honiara, and gangs of people started harassing and threatened Malaitan people who were living in Gizo, the capital of Western Province. One Malaitan youth was killed when he tried to fight back and that really angered the Malaitan population in Honiara.

Another important fact: Choiseul Province is located right next to Papua New Guinea, specifically, Bougainville island of PNG. Again, history buffs will know that Bougainville has been struggling for independence from PNG on and off for the past several decades, which means that they have 1) lots of guns 2) lots of experience in guerilla warfare. Add to the fact that many people in Choiseul and Bougainville are friends / family (it's after all only an accident of history that the two islands ended up in different countries), and you realize that the Western Province suddenly has military back up from some elements of the Bougainville Revolutionary Army (BRA).

Eventually the Malaysian community here lobbied the Malaysian government hard enough to get the Royal Malaysian Air Force to send a Hercules transport plane in and get some people (including those people from Taiwan, China, India, Thailand etc. that the Australians missed) out. A couple of colleagues went and all of the expat women and children, but most of us (including me) stayed behind.

The next few weeks was mostly life as usual in the capital, except for sporadic looting and gunfire, no police and no government. The MEF deployed their people at the outskirts of the city to keep out the GLA/IFM. They even took a bulldozer, fitted it with metal plating armor, drilled holes for guns, and used it to raze a few Gualais villages, but all that was far away from the city. In the meantime, the exodus of Malaitans from Western Province continued, and boatloads of armed BRA people zipped back and forth between Western Province and Bougainville.

After a while, the GLA/IFM, being vastly outgunned, simply sort of melted apart, except for Harold Keke's gang of die-hard rebels. The Australians came back in, organized a big meeting in Townsville, Australia, and got the remnants of the GLA/IFM, except for Keke's band who refused to participate, to sign a peace agreement (the Townsville Peace Agreement, TPA) with the MEF.

Under the TPA, the various organizations were supposed to disband and all armed parties were given an amnesty period within which everyone who voluntarily gave up their weapons would not be charged for any crimes.

So what's the problem, you ask? Simple, the stupid amnesty thing wasn't working, so when its time was up, they renewed it, then extended it again, and again, and again... Just today, I heard on the radio that they are going to extend the amnesty period for one ultra-final, absolutely Last, no exceptions permitted, time.

Somehow, I'm not convinced.

To be continued...
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Old July 10th, 2003, 06:27 AM
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Deccan:
Thank you for sharing with us. I have been trying to follow the SI events via CNN and BBC, but it has been very confusing, not well-covered, or not covered in a balanced way. Your Posts have clarified many things for me.
Take care.
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Old July 10th, 2003, 06:52 AM

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Thanks Deccan.
Some of these details are new to me (Townsville Peace Agreement) but the time frame seems to be when I was over-seas.
I hope we can all work things out peaceable, but I'm not holding my breath...
You will keep yourself out of trouble and keep us updated, won't you?
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Old July 10th, 2003, 09:22 AM
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Interesting reading, Deccan. Thanks.

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Once something like that happens in your country, the matter becomes a lot more complicated.
If it's so complicated, why do the US, UK and other governments think that such a simple 'solution' (kill loads of random foreigners) can be applied?
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Old July 10th, 2003, 12:14 PM

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This is great Deccan. It's much like hearing about the Iraq war on television and radio (CNN, BBC, and a coiuple of others) and then reading about it in that one guy's blog. Thanks.

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If it's so complicated, why do the US, UK and other governments think that such a simple 'solution' (kill loads of random foreigners) can be applied?
Whoa.... tangent. Revive the Iraq thread and post this there and I will be happy to respond.

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Old July 11th, 2003, 01:35 AM
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May be not all western governments (I believe I live in a country that still puts human rights first before combat against terrorism) but I must agree that some activities of the US government really frighten me more than any terrorist activities. And if deccan is right (I know too little about the political situation in that part of the world) I am worried about that too.
Well, if that's true, then it's a good thing you didn't have any relatives working in a certain New York building on a certain day in 2001.
Once something like that happens in your country, the matter becomes a lot more complicated.

I am a citizen of the country the Geneva convention comes from, which the US government not longer obeys when it comes to the war against terrorism.
But my compassion for the victims of the terrorism is absolutely independent of their passport and I sincerely hope that my reason would still govern my emotions when a relative would be under the victims.
But no matter how much I share the cry for justice, no matter how much I understand your concern for safety: the basic human rights must never never never be canceled for a human beeing, even if this human has commited the most horrible crimes. If you go over this line you will end up in tyranny and become inhuman yourself.
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I am a citizen of the country the Geneva convention comes from, which the US government not longer obeys when it comes to the war against terrorism.
The Geneva convention was getting lip service long before the 'war on terrorism' started. Rule regarding munitions, engagement of paratroopers, manipulation of the weather, and a few others have been violated with only a modest attempt at cover-up.

I think we should have rules of war and treatment of participant of such. But war is war and few countries that participate in more than a few are going to follow all the rules.

You want to talk about inhumane? Let's compare prison systems. I'll give you the point on capital punishment (more to get past it than because I think it is inhumane), and let's talk about treatment of prisoners who have not been so sentenced. But let's do that in another thread. You start it, and I will reply.
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