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July 16th, 2003, 08:58 PM
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Re: Imagine there\'s no Talisman, it isn\'t hard to do
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This thread is not for discussing the merits or fairness of the Talisman or the Talisman ability in any sense. Please see another thread for that discussion.
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July 16th, 2003, 09:04 PM
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Re: Imagine there\'s no Talisman, it isn\'t hard to do
I would make it a 1000 point trait then...
or even 750.
The 5 facilites are nice ... But one can do with out them fine.
( advanced storage should be 1500 or 2000 )
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July 16th, 2003, 09:22 PM
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Re: Imagine there\'s no Talisman, it isn\'t hard to do
I like Talisman in AIC mod - it works just like an extra sensors. It is still very good device, extra 50% to hit (at level 6 IIRC) is no joke but not overpowered.
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July 16th, 2003, 09:28 PM
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Re: Imagine there\'s no Talisman, it isn\'t hard to do
That is one of the first things I changed in Adamant Mod. 
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July 16th, 2003, 09:34 PM
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Re: Imagine there\'s no Talisman, it isn\'t hard to do
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Can it be made worthwhile without including pale imitations of the Talisman?
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Not that I have anything against the pale imitations, but can Religious do with it.
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July 16th, 2003, 10:08 PM
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Re: Imagine there\'s no Talisman, it isn\'t hard to do
Religious has gotta have something. Organic, psychic, crystaline all have facilities and a weapon. Religious needs something.
OK, so the shard cannon is pretty weak. And the AS is useless against the master computer. But they offer instant gratification in combat. So does the talisman.
If SE4 had no racial weapons, just the racial faciliites, straight out of the box, I would have thought they were great -- I wouldn't miss the weapons at all.
But would I spend all those racial points on a PBW game without organic weapons or the talisman? Probably not.
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July 17th, 2003, 12:56 AM
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Re: Imagine there\'s no Talisman, it isn\'t hard to do
If you take away the Talisman, you should give Religious a weapon component. Everyone else has one.
I suggest a Deus Ex Machina Cannon : skips everything and fires every turn. Size, damage and range would be as required to balance it out.
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