Attack of the Ankle-Biters - Replacment player needed.

Slynky · #1 July 29th, 2003, 07:04 PM

Well, as others might remember, I'm one not prone to mods. So, I'd prefer the gentleman's agreement. After all, I think all the ship discussions are verifiable during play. So, unless I'm overlooking something, ungentlemanly people can be caught.

As to AI doing something if a turn is missed, that's the player's loss. I.e., if the AI researched destroyers, just don't build one. IF the AI later builds a destroyer, you must scrap it. If one misses so many turns that the AI researches, builds and moves a destroyer into play, THAT player shouldn't be playing any more anyway (IMHO). If a player drops, can't the position be "scrapped"?

Finally, I'd suggest limiting fighters to smalls. Bad enough they are around 1/3 the size of a frigate already.

geoschmo · #2 July 29th, 2003, 07:15 PM

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Originally posted by Slynky:
Finally, I'd suggest limiting fighters to smalls. Bad enough they are around 1/3 the size of a frigate already.

Well I wouldn't object to that if everyone thinks it's a good idea. But actually a small fighter is less then a tenth of the size of a frigate (15Kt). Large fighter is only an eigth the size (25Kt). Are you thinking of drones maybe? Small ones are half the size of a frigate. And the large ones are almost as big as the frigate, and no maintenance.

That's why I felt it prudent to limit them to small only.

The platforms and bases I thought should be limited because of the mounts that the larger sizes get. Too powerful for 200Kt ships to face I believe.

The medium and large fighters don't get mounts, and aren't so big that I think they are a problem. But if everyone wants them out that is fine too.

Geoschmo

Slynky · #3 July 29th, 2003, 07:23 PM

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Originally posted by geoschmo:

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Originally posted by Slynky:
Finally, I'd suggest limiting fighters to smalls. Bad enough they are around 1/3 the size of a frigate already.

Well I wouldn't object to that if everyone thinks it's a good idea. But actually a small fighter is less then a tenth of the size of a frigate (15Kt). Large fighter is only an eigth the size (25Kt). Are you thinking of drones maybe? Small ones are half the size of a frigate. And the large ones are almost as big as the frigate, and no maintenance. That's why I felt it prudent to limit them to small only.

The platforms and bases I thought should be limited because of the mounts that the larger sizes get. Too powerful for 200Kt ships to face I believe.

The medium and large fighters don't get mounts, and aren't so big that I think they are a problem. But if everyone wants them out that is fine too.

Geoschmo

Actually, I'm almost ashamed of what weight unit I was thinking when I wrote that (well, if you insist...a satellite

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geoschmo · #4 July 29th, 2003, 07:28 PM

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Originally posted by Slynky:
Actually, I'm almost ashamed of what weight unit I was thinking when I wrote that (well, if you insist...a satellite )

I considered limiting sattelites, but decided against it. They medium and large ones do have mounts, but not even as good as the small WP and base mounts. And even the large ones aren't that big. Plus since there is no way to build bases on warp points anymore, someone may want to use some sats there for defense. But if people think we should limit the sats I don't have a problem doing it. I am open to suggestions for limiting more stuff. I just don't want to get into allowing more stuff as that gets away from the original idea IMHO.

Geoschmo

[ July 29, 2003, 18:39: Message edited by: geoschmo ]

Fyron · #5 July 29th, 2003, 07:38 PM

If everyone uses the None AI type, then there should not be a problem with missing turns and the AI screwing things up. It won't design or build ships, or do research. Very simple solution.

geoschmo · #6 July 29th, 2003, 07:42 PM

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Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
If everyone uses the None AI type, then there should not be a problem with missing turns and the AI screwing things up. It won't design or build ships, or do research. Very simple solution.

Or they can just check the box in the minister screen that AI should not make changes during simultaneous games. I have been getting away from telling people to use the "None" files since the NoAI mod is now obsolete.

Geoschmo

Loser · #7 July 29th, 2003, 07:47 PM

Is there now a firm NO on the whole 'mod' question?