Massive Power Outage

[Erax]

200 kwh per month. I think i could do it. Barely though. I average 15 kwh per day right now.

Energy usage is quite different from country to country, depending on whether you use electricity for cooking, heating, A/C or water heating. For Brazil, it's a very reasonable value, I'd even say generous - we don't need heating, most houses don't have A/C and we use gas for cooking.

[Loser]

Originally posted by E3:
heh.. Canada could use a civil war.

I mean, we have had one.

It was a bar room brawl in which the only person arrested was an american mercenery who showed up late.

Gotta love Canadians.

This sounds specific. I'm guessing it's either an inside joke or some bit of history that kids in the States missed out on. Enlighten us?

[tesco samoa]

yea true words.

I need heating in the winter... And I try not to run the AC in the summer.

I am in the process of converting my stove/oven & washer/dryer to gas.

That will really cut the rate down.

Usually the only stuff I run at home all the time is the fridge and freezer. The Computer now I turn it off when not in use.

Other than that it is lights on at night while in the room. And the rest of the stuff only when it is being used.

[DavidG]

Originally posted by Loser:

quote:

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Originally posted by E3:
heh.. Canada could use a civil war.

I mean, we have had one.

It was a bar room brawl in which the only person arrested was an american mercenery who showed up late.

Gotta love Canadians.

This sounds specific. I'm guessing it's either an inside joke or some bit of history that kids in the States missed out on. Enlighten us?

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I think the closed thing Canada came to a Civil war might be the Riel Rebellion. Not a whole lot bigger than a bar room brawl.

[Wardad]

RE: Gas supply interruption in Arizona

To help mitigate the gasoline distribution problem in Phoenix, buisness leaders in the valley are encouraging employees who can carpool, use public transportation, work flexible hours or telecommute (with agreement from his/her manager) to do so. We're also suggesting the use of Online meetings and teleconferencing in place of travel.
In a meeting yesterday at Governor Napolitano's office, businesses were briefed on the following updates:

· Testing of the repaired pipeline is beginning today, and despite an initial failure reported in the media, Kinder Morgan asserts the pipeline will be back in operation this weekend.
· If tests are successful and gasoline begins flowing, it will take several days to restore the area's supply to normal and to stem panic buying; meanwhile, efforts continue to increase incoming supply via trucks.
· The governor has requested permission from the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) to temporarily allow the use of more generally available fuel blends in Phoenix; in addition, long-term plans include petitioning for modification of Arizona's State Implementation Plan (SIP) for air quality and removal of the requirement that we use a "boutique" fuel blend.
· As a result of price gouging, the governor, attorney general and the state legislature will introduce anti-gouging legislation in the 2004 legislative session. Currently, there is no Arizona law regulating the price of gasoline.
· 60 - 65 percent of valley-wide gas stations are not open or operating. After refueling, gas supplies Last only five to six hours.
· The governor is requesting 60 percent of the state employees in Maricopa County to telecommute, and is requesting county and city governments do the same.


Below are some helpful resources:

· Updates on the gas supply interruption: http://www.azcentral.com.
· Governor Napolitano's updates: http://www.governor.state.az.us.
· To find gas stations, which currently are open: http://kfyi.com/main.html.
· For the best (and worst) gas prices in Arizona: http://www.arizonagasprices.com.

We appreciate everyone's effort to support our community during this period of inconvenience.

[ August 20, 2003, 22:26: Message edited by: Wardad ]

[E3]

DavidG, exactly what I was refering to.
LOL

[Phoenix-D]

What I want to know about the gas situation is this:

-its claimed that the pipeline breaking is the cause of the problem, and that fixing it will resolve the problem
-it is ALSO claimed that we have the same amount of gas on hand as usual, and the problem is getting it to the stations

So how exactly will fixing a pipeline- which of course does NOT delive to individual stations- fix this situation?