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Old November 22nd, 2003, 01:48 PM
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Cybersol had to prioritize RL over SEIV and has dropped out of the Pairs game.

The game is still early (turn 27) and he was well placed (we was partners). Getting victorypoints for his dropout will be the cheapest points ever awarded

So what does the rules say ?
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Old November 23rd, 2003, 02:58 AM
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If Slynky allows such a change, I could be rated instead of Cybersol, as I took over his Empire. I would not mind, this game being still in its early stages.
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Old November 22nd, 2003, 08:17 PM
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Last item on the "Rules" page reads:

"(6) If you fail to finish a game for any reason, it will be considered a forfeit/loss unless the victor agrees to the reason for the failure to complete the game."

First, we need to decide if Cybersol's drop should be counted as a forfeit. From what I'm guessing, it is believed that real life caused the drop and not a losing position. The other players being rated in this game should state if they feel the drop should be allowed without it counting as a loss for Cybersol.

That's the first item to be dealt with.

Second, whether to allow Alneyan to count the game as a rated game for himself. My personal feeling is that (after 27 turns) Cybersol played enough of the game that it's a bit difficult to give all the credit of any potential win to Alneyan. Or say that Alneyan deserved the loss if it happened. So, my thought is that the game should continue without Alneyan's position being rated. BUT, I think it's fair to hear some other thoughts on this problem as well.

Sooo...?
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So it is a complicated matter. Erh... I see, it wasn't exactly the sort of input you expected. If you do want to complicate matters even more, you could consider Cybersol was not the only one responsible for the current situation (and for the outcome of the game, whatever it is), but Primitive as well played a major part. For the sake of simplicity, this shouldn't be taken into account though.

So. I can see your concerns, I do have an asset by taking over a developed position with a strong ally. So it would not be exactly fair for me to earn all points from a potential win. I think I shouldn't be rated in this game then, which will only leave the problem of Cybersol withdrawal for the other rated players to solve.

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If you do want to complicate matters even more, you could consider Cybersol was not the only one responsible for the current situation (and for the outcome of the game, whatever it is), but Primitive as well played a major part.
That is certainly true but that aspect is the same in every multi-player game. What is not the same is someone dropping and someone else wanting to take the position and have it rated.

Thanks for bowing out of the rating request. It makes matters more simple now. Hope you aren't upset...but if you are, you have the golden opportunity to get even now... .
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I think we should just wipe off Cybersol from Pair's rated players list. Only a few people have met other people yet so it would be too easy points.
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