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June 1st, 2002, 05:02 AM
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Re: Questions
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I don't think they're strange questions. I don't like cd copy protection and was wondering if this game has it. I like the game to come with a printed manual so I can read it and I like it to come in a box so I can put it on the shelf with the manual inside. And I would prefer going to the store instead of the mail. 101 was available in stores so I wondered about 82 also.
What I think is strange is I posted these questions more than a week ago and nobody from the company has bothered to respond. Since I am a multiple customer (War Machine and Runesword 2) I wonder about this lack of consideration.
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Since you're a repeat customer, you should know that Shrapnel is not a big budget game developer. They develop niche games that don't create the revenue that the RTS and 3D games generate. Therefore, survival for them means to cut costs in some areas. Everything you're hoping for would mean that Shrapnel would lose money per unit sold.
If they sell it in stores, they don't make much money for each unit sold. If they design and produce a box, that's even more money lost. I have yet to see a Shrapnel game in a store, so don't count on it. Also, if it's not in stores then what's the point in making a box? If they don't use copy protection, that's even more money lost.
BTW, it will have a manual. It's on the website. Although it doesn't specifically say that it's a printed manual, I'll bet that it is. You are absolutely wrong when you say everything. The two games I bought have no cd copy protection and come with a printed manual. 101, the predecessor to 82, came in a box and sold in stores. I'm seriously considering buying this game, depending on how the demo plays, and had some questions I was simply wondering about. But I'm totally dismayed that nobody from the company felt they were important enough to answer.
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June 1st, 2002, 05:07 AM
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Re: Questions
I know this is a odd question but when is it comming out? And can I pick it up in Canada?
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June 2nd, 2002, 02:14 AM
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Re: Questions
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You are absolutely wrong when you say everything. The two games I bought have no cd copy protection and come with a printed manual. 101, the predecessor to 82, came in a box and sold in stores. I'm seriously considering buying this game, depending on how the demo plays, and had some questions I was simply wondering about. But I'm totally dismayed that nobody from the company felt they were important enough to answer.[/QB]
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Actually I'm quite right when I say these things cost Shrapnel Games money, therefore shrinking their profits for each unit sold.
I, however, did NOT say that Shrapnel uses copy protection or prints boxes or manuals. I was merely stating that if they didn't have copy protection and if they did print manuals and boxes, then their profit per unit sold would be less. This is simple economics, I'm sure you understand that.
BTW, I also purched 101 in the stores and it was clearly not published by Shrapnel Games but Empire Interactive. Shrapnel is a different company although Tim Brooks has roots in both.
I'm not trying to argue with you, just clearly stating the facts as I see them.
I hope they have a printed manual, it will add much to the gaming experience. I don't care about the box which would get thrown away anyway because it takes up too much space. I own dozens of games and don't have the room to keep every box. I hope they use copy protection because if they don't I think there will be some loss of profit due to piracy. I want Shrapnel Games to be around for a long time and anti-piracy measures will help them achieve financial success. I too would like to buy the game in the store but I have no problem with internet purchases and I realize that this benefits Shrapnel games instead of the middle man.
Also, Rich, I'm having trouble getting my questions answered. I know they are knee deep in work on this game but I have confidence that soon they will answer our questions.
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June 2nd, 2002, 02:20 AM
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Re: Questions
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I know this is a odd question but when is it comming out? And can I pick it up in Canada?
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Not odd at all. It looks like it will be out at the end of the summer, maybe August. I think that it's internet/mail order only. I'm sure they ship to Canada. You might read their mailing policy somewhere on the site.
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June 2nd, 2002, 05:22 AM
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Re: Questions
I'm also interested in the Austerlitz game and posted a question there. No problem getting an answer right away from Richard, one of the head honchos. I still find it incredible he won't answer here. What I'm asking is not complicated or anything.
I still plan to make a buying decision based on the demo. I liked the premise of 101 which I played for a few hours all together. But there were some things about it I didn't like so I gave it up. Hopefully those things are fixed in 82 and from what I read it looks like it.
Btw, I believe it is scheduled for release at the end of June, not the end of summer.
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June 2nd, 2002, 05:34 PM
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Re: Questions
To be honest guys there is no new news, that is why I haven't answered. The game is probably going to be delayed again, but at this point I have no new info.
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June 3rd, 2002, 04:04 AM
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Re: Questions
Well, better delayed than rushed, I'd say! Let us know how things develop, when you can!
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