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Atrocities · #1 September 17th, 2003, 03:50 AM

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Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
QR, telepathy and telekinesis and all of that stuff do not work in reality... I know how telepathy could work, if it was more than fiction.

It might not work now or be considered a scifi exclusive thing, but evolution can never be ruled out.

DavidG · #2 September 17th, 2003, 04:14 AM

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Originally posted by QuarianRex:

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Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
QR, telepathy and telekinesis and all of that stuff do not work in reality... I know how telepathy could work, if it was more than fiction.

And I am telling you that some people are capable of actions that are considered to be within the scope of what most consider to be telepathy, telekinesis, and such. I have seen the hard data.

I recently read an article that said the same thing. (ie that hard data exists) It revolved around a test were subjects were shown one of 4 cards with pics on them and another person in a separate room would say what they wwere. I think the test showed that people on average got like 33% right as opposed to the expected 25%. This was claimed to be "statistically relevant" It just made think "who the heck decided what 'statistically relevant' means. Also could it not also just prove something totally different? ie some people are just lucky.

'Course the reason most people are skeptical about telepathy is like you say, how they define it. I would think telepathy would be commonly thought of as being able to read ones mind fairly reliably not just geting slightly higher that average while predicting one of 4 pictures.

QuarianRex · #3 September 17th, 2003, 04:40 AM

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It just made think "who the heck decided what 'statistically relevant' means.

Some musty old guys. They did it around the same time that they were hammering out the scientific method.

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Also could it not also just prove something totally different? ie some people are just lucky.

There is some evidence that the most basic level of psi is the manipulation of probability. Luck, if consitent enough, could itself be a manifestation of psi. And when you look at most studies of the wierder aspects of human capability these usually take luck into account. These aren't averaged on 5 or 10 tests where luck could have a substantial effect. These results are averaged over hundreds of tests. If you can keep lady luck on your side that long, well... I think that in itself would qualify as an example of the paranormal.

Fyron · #4 September 17th, 2003, 04:46 AM

Where did adolescent fantasies come into this? That is fairly insulting.

narf poit chez BOOM · #5 September 17th, 2003, 04:51 AM

show me the hard data.

oleg · #6 September 17th, 2003, 12:19 PM

There is no such thing as telekinesis.

Science would be impossible since results of experiments will depend on experimentator mind.

Do you think people did't look very hard on the measuring devises when another brilliant theory goes bust ?

Some experiments are done with extreme accuracy and regardless of the obserever, results are the same.

Atrocities · #7 September 18th, 2003, 01:15 AM

I once saw a tv show where they actually studyied Star Trek Nerd, or Trekkies as they wanted to be called. You know the type, the people who dress up in starfleet or klingon uniforms and go around conventions calling each other Lieutenant or Captain Klawwwwww or something even worse.

They profiled over 2,000 of them and this is what they discovered. (As close as I can recall it)

"A normal average Trekkier is morbidly obease male of an average age of 30, poor hygine skills, low self astem, poor vision - requiring glasses, no significant other - most are still virigns, who reside at either their mothers home, or a dorm at a local college.

Most are incredibly intelligent, but lack people skills and are often sufforing from some mental disorder that limits their grasp of reality."

The show went on to show a bunch of people doing things that most of us would NEVER get cought doing. Did you know there are people out there that have learned to speak Klingon as if it was a real language and not just made up for the movies?

Hey I like the ships, thats all, ok the weapons too, but I would NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS EVER dress up in a costum, out side of a party, and go out in public.

I just like the weapons and ships. Thats all.

[ September 17, 2003, 12:16: Message edited by: Atrocities ]