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Old September 14th, 2003, 06:26 AM
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Look at all of the artist that got nothing for their work in the 40's, 50's, 60's, 70's, 80's, and yes even into the 90's because of crooked record companies. They claim they are doing this for the artists. Bull ****!. They are doing this because there is a market on the internet and the first step to controlling a market is to surpress it, regulate it, and then manage it. Its all about the all might golden dollar.

If artists were the issue I'd say hell ya, pay to download, but its not. The artist get next to nil for each record they sell. Something on the order of 11 cents per disk if they are lucky.

"Music is broadcast for free. Books, and software are not. Movies are not. Although TV does air movies, we all know that thay are hacked to crap and full of commericals."

"New music should be free from P2P for a period of a year or so. Then open the gates. Embrace the P2P market and allow the industry to grow. Stop trying to scare everyone strait and use the system to make the system work."

These are true enough statements, but we all know that sooner or later we are going to be seeing P2P clients on America's Most Wanted.
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Court cases trying to show P2P networks as illegal, based on the availability of illegal copyrighted material, have already been heard. The court rulings all pretty much stated that the P2P networks themselves are not illegal as their is a great deal of legal material that can be obtained, thus giving P2P networks a legal footing.

In fact the current crop of law suits is arising as a direct result of the failure of the record industry to get P2P applications made illegal. Tactic A fails try tactic B. So they have two options... they can try and get a law passed that will likely be found unconstitutional as so many recent internet restricting laws have been. Next they could try and get a constitutional amendmant passed. The public outcry against anything like that would kill any attempt almost instantly. The Senate and Congress members do need to get reelected after all.

So as for P2P on Americas most wanted... I doubt it. Even so that would only solve a fraction of the problem. Look up server locations on your local P2P networks. I bet a large fraction of them are not even in the US. The other countries would have to be just as rabid about it as the US based recording industry is trying to make the US.

Quite simply I don't think it is going to work.

I think this Quote can sum up the position of the Current Record Industry quite well.

We will not go quietly into the night,
We will not vanish without a fight.

I would add the Last part... but I don't think it applies, because they won't survive or live on. Not as they are anyways.

And here is an interesting article that shows how internet downloads are very likely not at the heart of decreased music CD sales. But rather the industry itself is at fault with its bad business practices and attempts to control the industry and kill off the free internet competition, illegal or otherwise.

http://www.bricklin.com/recordsales.htm

Course those are just my opinions.
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Old September 14th, 2003, 09:11 AM
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I own all the music on my computer and have the CD's to prove it.
You're lucky.
I don't.

And there is no way I am about to keep my long dead tape of Pink Floyd Drak side of the wall just to prove that I did buy it years ago.

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That girl will be OK, several internet providers offered to paid her fine. It is a cheep advertisement and very good publicity for them
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128 KB encryption is the standard now, and it is a tough nut to crack. Wait til 1024 KB or higher encryption comes out.
Fyron, that's 128-bit encryption that is the standard now. If 128KB encryption was the standard, only broadband Users would bother with transmitting encrypted data.

Although, having 131072-bit encryption would be super-duper-ultra-secure. As long as nobody else has the key, that is
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I own all the music on my computer and have the CD's to prove it.
You're lucky.
I don't.

And there is no way I am about to keep my long dead tape of Pink Floyd Drak side of the wall just to prove that I did buy it years ago.


Great now the RIAA knows who you are and will force Shrapnel to give them your user info and IP information. Then they will force your ISP to give them your personal info and by this time next week you will be looking down the barrel of a very nasty and in my opinion, wrongful lawsuit.

Been nice known ya UE.
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He is lucky, he lives in France.
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