OT: RIAA and Their Law Suits

[Joachim]

Originally posted by Jack Simth:

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Originally posted by Joachim:
Ditto in Oz, I remeber the debate about internet gambling, some archaic pollies calling for its banning . Any one with half a brain saying that it is pointless 'cause they will go offshore - much better to allow it and tax and regulate it.
Of course if you could ban gambling world wide that might be a good thing as it is a tax on stupidity - then again if you *really* think you can beat the odds - heh go for it.

Anyone who gambles for profit without being the house is an idiot, granted. However, for those who gamble properly, a loss is expected - gambling takes on the role of entertainment, where a loss of money is reasonable, not something done for profit. For that portion of the population, gambling is not a stupidity tax. For the rest of the population, however....

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Problem is that it can become a very expensive from of entertainment that can result in all sorts of crazy stuff. Such as kids locked in cars at Casinos, no money for food because the pokies ate it instead.
It is hard when a form of entertainment can be so obviously problematic to some - the question is - when is the social detriment worse by allowing it than banning it?
(aren't we all happy that a SEIV addiction is so comparatively cheap!)

[Atrocities]

Originally posted by Jack Simth:

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Originally posted by Joachim:
Ditto in Oz, I remeber the debate about internet gambling, some archaic pollies calling for its banning . Any one with half a brain saying that it is pointless 'cause they will go offshore - much better to allow it and tax and regulate it.
Of course if you could ban gambling world wide that might be a good thing as it is a tax on stupidity - then again if you *really* think you can beat the odds - heh go for it.

Anyone who gambles for profit without being the house is an idiot, granted. However, for those who gamble properly, a loss is expected - gambling takes on the role of entertainment, where a loss of money is reasonable, not something done for profit. For that portion of the population, gambling is not a stupidity tax. For the rest of the population, however....

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Jack, do you want to play some 7 card roll your own, no peek, low spade in whole stud poker? Or do you prefer the odds of Black Jack?

[tesco samoa]

I can beat the odds in betting on football and hockey.

But there is an investment of time and keeping strict control on your balance and percentage of bet. 3% of the total is good number for a wager. And you never increase that percentage. That way when times are lean or good your bets reflect that.

And lots of reading. and stats to analyse. It can be done. But one must also look at what they picked and why they picked it. Each week as well.

[Loser]

Originally posted by Atrocities:
Jack, do you want to play some 7 card roll your own, no peek, low spade in whole stud poker? Or do you prefer the odds of Black Jack?

No Peek makes it a monkey game, much like uncounted Black Jack.

While playing for money inarguably makes it gambling, properly played Poker is not a Game of Chance, but a Game of Skill. Luck might determine the course of a single hand, but Skill determines the course of a night.

That said, I prefer Texas Hold'em, Seven Card Stud, or Five Card Draw for their simplicity, or any number of insane 'home games' for variety and to keep the Math Masters on their toes.

We play once a week, and 'friendly' means that the buy in is low enough that losing it is no cause for sympathy.

[dogscoff]

Only time I ever put money on at the bookmakers, it was because I knew I could beat the odds: I had a 100% chance of winning.

A few years ago one of the Online gambling sites had a promotion to encourage new Users: For every £1 you placed on your first bet, they would match it up to £100.

I put in £100 and got them to match it. Then I split the £200 on a football match- half the money that side A wins, half that they don't.

Inevitably, I lost one of the bets and won the other. I think I wound up with around £120, so I simply withdrew the cash and closed the account.

This little loophole in their promotion had been publicised by www.ntk.net (that's how I came to know about it) and I wasn't the only one to pull it off. The offer was soon withdrawn...

[Atrocities]

Originally posted by Loser:

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Originally posted by Atrocities:
Jack, do you want to play some 7 card roll your own, no peek, low spade in whole stud poker? Or do you prefer the odds of Black Jack?

No Peek makes it a monkey game, much like uncounted Black Jack.

While playing for money inarguably makes it gambling, properly played Poker is not a Game of Chance, but a Game of Skill. Luck might determine the course of a single hand, but Skill determines the course of a night.

That said, I prefer Texas Hold'em, Seven Card Stud, or Five Card Draw for their simplicity, or any number of insane 'home games' for variety and to keep the Math Masters on their toes.

We play once a week, and 'friendly' means that the buy in is low enough that losing it is no cause for sympathy.

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Oh I agree whole heartely. I hate that game and 7 card no peek ***** kills. That game and I do not get along at all.

Mine is seven stud roll your own, low spade in the whole. (Meaning if you have the lowest spade, typically an ace, you get half the pot) These game usually draw a huge pot. Everyone playing the worst cards they have in hopes of succering someone else.

Games like 5 draw duces wild drive me bonkers. zookiers (sp) is ok, but can get expensive if you loose to often. High low is ok too. I do hate hate stait low ball though.

There are hundres of games, but mostly the people I play with stick to basic staple games.

Never bet on the other mans game. Rule 1. Rule 2, the house always has the advantage. Rule 3, never bet more than you can aford to loose. Rule 4, never show your hand unless you have to. Keep em wondering. Rule 5, expect to loose, and to loose often. Rule 6, never get mad about loosing even if it is to the same guy seven times in a row. It will happen. And rule 7, never count your money while sitt'n at the table. There will be time enough for counting when the dealings done.

[Erax]

Gambling is like drinking. Some people can do it for fun and others - for reasons we are only starting to understand - can't control it. And still others see absolutely no point at all in it.

There is no easy solution. Whether you allow it or outlaw it, someone will always be on the unfair side of the deal.