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Re: Battlestar Galactica On SciFi Channel
so, they make it the colonials fault the cylon's are bad robots?
'oh, but he/she had rotten parents/freinds/small furry animals'.
so now, the colonails are the bad guy's?
anyone want to start a petition to the sci-fi channel to stop them from ruining a great show?
^calmest thing i could think of^ 
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October 7th, 2003, 07:34 AM
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Try to look at it without 23+ years of hindsight. When Star Wars first came out, one of the best things about it for us kids (I was 14) was the special effects - the ships in space, the bLaster bolts, the light-sabres - all a quantum leap beyond what we were used to seeing in Star Trek re-runs on late night TV, or on Space: 1999. These were pretty much the only referents we had, and without VCRs we did not have the opportunity to study them in detail, we could only try and catch them when they happened to show up on TV.
From that point of view, yes, Battlestar Galactica certainly did a pretty good impression of Star Wars. The ships had a similar look to them; the appearance of ships in space, and ship combat, was very similar; and I think the hand-weapon effects were similar, too.
I didn't get to see Galactica much, only when I was over at the home of someone who lived in town and had cable TV, as it was on a network that we could not recieve by broadcast (ABC, maybe?), but I remember thinking back then that it would be so cool to be able to watch it regularly, like getting Star Wars on TV. (I watched Star Wars three times the summer it came out, then did not get to see it again in any form until Empire Strikes Back came out several years later; did not see the original Star Wars again until it was shown on TV about the time that Jedi came out, I think. My kids have them all on VHS and watch them whenever they get a notion, and think nothing of it.)
So anyway, yeah, I understand exactly what Xizor was saying, and agree with him.
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Thanks, SpaceBadger! Couldn't have explained myself any better than that.
Of course when A New Hope was first released in 1977, I was only a year old. The first Star Wars film I saw in theaters was Return of the Jedi in '83. The previous two I saw at my neighbor's house; she babysat for my brothers and I, and happened to have a VCR (my parents didn't get one until the mid-80s). So I was pretty young when first watching Star Wars, Galactica, and I also remember a show called Buck Rogers in the 25th Century (which has re-aired on-and-off on Sci-Fi). And at that age, you're too young to really understand the story. You just wait for the scenes with starfighter dogfights and bLaster bolts darting across the screen. Naturally you perceive obvious similarities between Star Wars and Galactica: Cylon centurions resemble Imperial Stormtroopers (and their mechanical appearance distinguishes them as the "bad guys", as opposed to the "good guys" who are mainly human in appearance); similar weapons and ships; the Cylons and Imperials always tend to outnumber the "good guys", who more than make up for it through heroics; and so on. The Last point you find in any fantasy epic, but Star Wars and Galactica were my first exposure to this kind of thing. Which is probably why even today I prefer space fantasy over the Harry Potter / Lord of the Rings varieties.
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October 7th, 2003, 11:10 AM
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Comparing BSG to SW is like comparing Air Combat in California to Air Combat in Florida. Space fighter combat in both BSG and SW are simular because that is how we preceive fighter combat for space. The fact that they are simular is by design and concept. No one has the right to "claim" the style as their own.
Vipers look nothing like X-Wings IMHO. Cylon Fighters look nothing like TIE Fighters. A Battlestar and a Basestar have no resemeblence to anything seen in Star Wars. Lucas lost his case, and we lost BSG. Thank George.
Remember BSG was sued by the guy who made Howard the Duck.
Buck Rogers in the 25th Century, now that was a nifty show. Corney by todays standards, but in the day it was a great Thursday night flick. I still love thinking about Erin (Wilma) for she was one very attactive women and I guess she still is. Do any of you remember the episode where Whilma and another women were locked inside of a hot room filled with steam? Ohhhh ya baby, for a 13 year old that was like pure gold.
Any one here recently listen to BSG Main title theme? I need to get that on P2P as I can not find it on any CD any where.
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October 8th, 2003, 01:21 AM
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October 8th, 2003, 01:27 AM
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I just wonder if they are going to recycle the same space scenes 1,000 times like in the original series?
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October 8th, 2003, 01:42 AM
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I just wonder if they are going to recycle the same space scenes 1,000 times like in the original series?
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Oh yeah, that same scene of the cylons approaching and rolling over into a dive every time there was an attack. That one became so ubiquitous it was in an RCA TV commercial for a while. Then there is the one they play every time a viper got behind one of the cylons: cut to an interior of a cylon fighter and the pilot looks back over his shoulder just before the ship explodes.
One of the nice things about the computer generated effects is once you set the basic paramaters and elements of the shot you can run it from different angles and what not and make several shots that look nothing alike. So hopefully no.
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Buck Rogers in the 25th Century, now that was a nifty show. Corney by todays standards, but in the day it was a great Thursday night flick. I still love thinking about Erin (Wilma) for she was one very attactive women and I guess she still is. Do any of you remember the episode where Whilma and another women were locked inside of a hot room filled with steam? Ohhhh ya baby, for a 13 year old that was like pure gold.
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"Planet of the Slave Girls" had to be the best episode for that reason alone. 
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