Battlestar Galactica On SciFi Channel

[Starhawk]

I'm talking about the people who actually stood there protesting the fact that Starbuck was gonna be a woman .

And it's rather campy if you get down to those episodes where they found the non earth Terra I mean those annoying androids and the like....that was really really campy.

I do think I was thinking about 1980 when I refered to the whole series as Campy though...I mean that was just horrible and what the hell were they thinking!?!?!?!?!

[narf poit chez BOOM]

We should point out in all fairness that the first year for any series generally suck.

John Doe

i just wish the first one wasn't the Last one.

[ToddT]

I saw the "Lowdown" on BSG. Its effectively a complete rewrite.
For example: Cylon origins aside, the Cybernetic techonlogy of the Cylon machines was beyond what the 12 colonies could build and there was a couple of episodes that pointed that out, one directly: Dr Belker took a couple of them apart and could not get them working again.
Baltar is now a scientist instead of politician.( he was a member of the Council 12). I could easily go on. Like it appears they removed Athena from the story. She was Apllo's sister and I think she was a qualified pilot prior to her being stationed on the command deck.
Oh the Pegasus only took on two Baseships, Baltar was on the third, and being the coward he was ran before that battle occured.

[ December 03, 2003, 01:18: Message edited by: ToddT ]

[Atrocities]

The lowdown on BSG was a marketing ploy to get people to accept the rewrite of BSG for the SciFi channel. In a nut shell they did not do their homework on the fan base and are now trying to win as many people to the cause as possible.

I loved the part where the actors all said, "ya once I found out that the Cylons were going to be human looking I signed on." WTF! What a joke statement that was. "hey if the actors think its cool that the cylons are now human, then perhaps all the people and fan out there will accept it too." How dumb do they thing we really are? Oh wait, that question is mute, I forgot where Ronald Moore came from.

First, you weren't even alive when BSG came out you, and second, your British so what do you know about BSG. You probably said; "Battlestar Galactica? What in bloodly hell is a Battlestar Galactica"

Then once it was explained to you, the new concept that is, you said "Oh so it is like BLADRUNNER meets STAR WARS. Sure I'll do that."

I just keep telling myself its all good. Its all good.

But simply put it is a cost issue and nothing more, nothing less. Its cheeper to have humans playing the part than CGI robots or Costumed humans.

After all this is the same network that cancelled Farscape while it was still the most popular series it had. And we should not forget about what they did to Cursader and Legend of the Rangers.

"I have a very low expectation of the SciFi channel that they will have to work very hard indeed to impress me." - Unknown Sci-Fi author.

Forgive me for being direct, but I simply did not buy the whole marketing ploy from SciFi. I know a con job when I see one. I will reserve my offical opinion until after the mini-series has aired.

[ December 03, 2003, 02:10: Message edited by: Atrocities ]

[Atrocities]

Originally posted by gregebowman:
Starhawk, I don't know how old you are or if you grew up watching American tv in the 1970's like I did, but most shows were about the man being the action hero and the women being in teh supportive role. I'm not defending it, but that's just the way it was. At least BSG had formed a female squadron when the males got sick in that one episode. I'm not "B & M" about Starbuck being a female, but after living 25 years with Dirk Benedict's face in your mind, it does take some adjustment to get used to the fact that it's going to be a female. I have no problems with females being fighter jocks or soldiers, either in tv or in real life. I was in the military, and saw several gung-ho type females, and I don't think too many of them were of the butch type. And I have to strongly disagree with your statement about BSG being campy. Maybe you're thinking about Galactic 1980, which was a big pile of dog excrement if there ever was one. Maybe it wasn't to your taste, but in the late 70's, that's about all we had to watch for sci-fi, except for Buck Rogers and Six Million Dollar Man. Now BR definitely got campy toward the end. But I can't see how you could ever call BSG campy. Maybe by today's standards it is, but nothing can be campier than Lost in Space (the series, not the movie).

OMG! This has got to be one of the best replies I have ever read. Thank you so very much for posting it. You are 100% correct. Job well done.

[PvK]

Originally posted by gregebowman:
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As far as a televised Star Wars, I can only imagine that happening when George Lucas is in the grave, and whoever is in charge of Lucasfilms is going for the bucks instead of a quality product. I just can't see Lucas letting anyone else have any creative control over his creation, except for when he had the 2 cartoon series back in the 80's. I don't know if he had anything to do with that except give his approval.

There was the "planet of the Ewoks" (or something) TV special, which wasn't animated and er, took the embarrassingness of the Ewoks in the ROTJ film, and multiplied it many times, for a kids' show. At least, that was my impression before my survival instincts forced me to stop watching, which was after only a few minutes.

Human Cylons? What, they didn't save all the costumes from the first show?

I was in 3rd or 4th grade when BSG first showed, but I remember thinking it got very corny after a few episodes. I liked the first episode, and some elements of some later ones (or at least, the Pegasus one), but mainly I remember a lot of embarrassing parts, or entire episodes. The "old west planet" one with a Cylon in a shiny hat? They also hyper-overused the same special effects clips, and the Cylons were almost never scary, they were SO inept. Though, I've always been pretty critical, and had little taste for things like "Boxy and his daggit", Ewoks, or "Tweaky" (or anything else after the movie) on Buck Rodgers.

However, gregebowman does make a good point about 70's sci fi options. Aside from watching Star Wars as many times as possible, you had to make do with what was available.

Remember "Battle Beyond the Stars"?

PvK

[ToddT]

Just In case I'm wrong about who you were refering to about The Lowdown" I wasn't defending it, not by any strecth. The promo had desperation written all over it as far as I'm concerned, always think that I when see that much effort in promoting something (its usually bad).

Yeah I miss Farscape.