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Old December 3rd, 2003, 05:43 AM
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Vaguely, it had that Japan actor in it. The guy who played the heavy in some mortal combat movie and also appeared in Snips/Conery movie rising sun.

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Old December 3rd, 2003, 08:31 AM
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Meh Sci-Fi does their little "Lowdowns" on everything....farscape had one, hulk had one, bsg the new one has one the old one even had a special devoted to it. Personally I reserve judging anything until I see it.

I am not a hardcore fan of anything and couldn't care less if they change characters from men to women or change a cornyass story like BSGs for a more modern one.

And if you do look closely at a lot of things the new BSG will appeal to the new generation they really don't care about the old BSGers because either those folks are older and have moved on from that kind of show completely or are mature enough to realize sometimes a modernization of a story can be a good thing.

The younger viewers will familiarize themselves better to the new storyline better. At least IMHO
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Old December 3rd, 2003, 08:05 PM
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As far as a televised Star Wars, I can only imagine that happening when George Lucas is in the grave, and whoever is in charge of Lucasfilms is going for the bucks instead of a quality product. I just can't see Lucas letting anyone else have any creative control over his creation, except for when he had the 2 cartoon series back in the 80's. I don't know if he had anything to do with that except give his approval.
There was the "planet of the Ewoks" (or something) TV special, which wasn't animated and er, took the embarrassingness of the Ewoks in the ROTJ film, and multiplied it many times, for a kids' show. At least, that was my impression before my survival instincts forced me to stop watching, which was after only a few minutes.

Human Cylons? What, they didn't save all the costumes from the first show?

I was in 3rd or 4th grade when BSG first showed, but I remember thinking it got very corny after a few episodes. I liked the first episode, and some elements of some later ones (or at least, the Pegasus one), but mainly I remember a lot of embarrassing parts, or entire episodes. The "old west planet" one with a Cylon in a shiny hat? They also hyper-overused the same special effects clips, and the Cylons were almost never scary, they were SO inept. Though, I've always been pretty critical, and had little taste for things like "Boxy and his daggit", Ewoks, or "Tweaky" (or anything else after the movie) on Buck Rodgers.

However, gregebowman does make a good point about 70's sci fi options. Aside from watching Star Wars as many times as possible, you had to make do with what was available.

Remember "Battle Beyond the Stars"?

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Actually, there were two Ewok movies, and apparently that's all they had in common with the Star Wars universe, because there was no sign or mention of the Rebels or the Empire. If memory serves me right, though, one character was dressed in a rebel flight suit. Also, there were two cartoon series in the 80's, one based on the Ewoks and one based on the two droids. As a matter of fact, I think it was called Droids, and followed the adventures of R2-D2 and C-3PO in what must have been a pre-Star Wars 4 life. The ewoks was basically a smurf-like cartoon, only the smurfs had brown fur. None of them were very good, but in a post-Return of the Jedi era, you got your Star Wars kicks where you could.

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I saw maybe the Last 15-20 minutes of the BSG lowdown by accident. I liked it when the new Starbuck was asked backstage what she'd do if she got a lot of negative stuff thrown at her about being a female Starbuck, and she said she'd flash them. I still haven't seen the new redesigned BSG, just the Vipers. Which looked basically the same to me, but instead of shooting lasers or plasma or whatever it was, they're shooting missiles. Can't wait until Monday.
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Yeah, I remember Battle Beyond The Stars. It was ok, but not the best movie ever made. It took me awhile to realize what it was: The Magnificient Seven in space. Heck it even had Robert Vaughn in it.
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Yeah, I remember Battle Beyond The Stars. It was ok, but not the best movie ever made. It took me awhile to realize what it was: The Magnificient Seven in space. Heck it even had Robert Vaughn in it.
That's ok. The Magnificent Seven was just The Seven Samurai in the Old West.

There is an old saying something like all fiction can be reduced down to 10 (not sure the actual number here) Greek plays. Stuff is always reused, even when we don't realize it.

Did you ever notice that Pixar's a Bug's Life was another Seven Samurai/Magnificent Seven remake.
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As a fan of the old series, I'm trying to keep an open mind, but it appears to me that the storyline has been severely compromised. I watched the Lowdown special, then I reread the book from the original movie Last weekend. The new series makes wholescale changes to the characters, the plot and the whole background universe. I will watch but most likely be disappointed. I would have to agree that by CURRENT standards, the old show is cheesy -- but that was 70's TV for you. Try watching 6 Million Dollar Man or Starsky & Hutch reruns and you'll see what I mean.
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Yeah, I remember Battle Beyond The Stars. It was ok, but not the best movie ever made. It took me awhile to realize what it was: The Magnificient Seven in space. Heck it even had Robert Vaughn in it.
That's ok. The Magnificent Seven was just The Seven Samurai in the Old West.

There is an old saying something like all fiction can be reduced down to 10 (not sure the actual number here) Greek plays. Stuff is always reused, even when we don't realize it.

Did you ever notice that Pixar's a Bug's Life was another Seven Samurai/Magnificent Seven remake.

I read somethere that all stories come from only 5 basic stories. I don't remember if that was supposed to be from the Greeks or not. As far as the new BSG, I find it interesting that instead of taking their names literally, like Apollo or Starbuck, they're going to be their call signs. Like Tom Cruise's character in Top Gun was called Maverick. It kind of makes sense, but who knows what kind of names were being used in the BSG universe. There did seem to be some sort of Greek or Roman influence in the names, though, in the old show.
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