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October 28th, 2003, 12:33 PM
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Re: Devnull and Retrofitting
hmm, I never knew these values were changed. You are right Grandpa Kim, this makes little sense.
I will raise the values in the next Version of DNM. Not sure about default, though. It seems the intention of the original authors to make retrofit cheaper. So I am likely to follow the spirit of the mod and offer a discount for retrofits as well.
Speaking of retrofits, how about raising the 'Retrofit Max Percent Difference in Cost'?
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October 28th, 2003, 06:57 PM
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Re: Devnull and Retrofitting
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Originally posted by Rollo:
I will raise the values in the next Version of DNM. Not sure about default, though. It seems the intention of the original authors to make retrofit cheaper. So I am likely to follow the spirit of the mod and offer a discount for retrofits as well.
Speaking of retrofits, how about raising the 'Retrofit Max Percent Difference in Cost'?
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If you want to make retrofitting cheaper than stock, but not make a loophole that can be exploited as much, the minimum settings I'd use are these:
Retrofit Cost Percent For Comps: 100
Retrofit Cost Percent For Comp Removal: 0
Retrofit Max Percent Difference in Cost: 50
I wouldn't make the Max Percent Diff larger - you'd lose a big part of the balancing factor (time).
[ October 28, 2003, 16:59: Message edited by: spoon ]
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October 28th, 2003, 09:41 PM
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Re: Devnull and Retrofitting
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Originally posted by Rollo:
hmm, I never knew these values were changed. You are right Grandpa Kim, this makes little sense.
I will raise the values in the next Version of DNM. Not sure about default, though. It seems the intention of the original authors to make retrofit cheaper. So I am likely to follow the spirit of the mod and offer a discount for retrofits as well.
Speaking of retrofits, how about raising the 'Retrofit Max Percent Difference in Cost'?
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Rollo, I know I see (or told about) changes in the Data after released that I never really recall consciously making, I think it is the family cat walking across the key board.
Think it happens to all of us.
[ October 28, 2003, 20:07: Message edited by: JLS ]
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October 29th, 2003, 12:45 AM
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Re: Devnull and Retrofitting
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Originally posted by spoon:
quote: Originally posted by Rollo:
I will raise the values in the next Version of DNM. Not sure about default, though. It seems the intention of the original authors to make retrofit cheaper. So I am likely to follow the spirit of the mod and offer a discount for retrofits as well.
Speaking of retrofits, how about raising the 'Retrofit Max Percent Difference in Cost'?
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If you want to make retrofitting cheaper than stock, but not make a loophole that can be exploited as much, the minimum settings I'd use are these:
Retrofit Cost Percent For Comps: 100
Retrofit Cost Percent For Comp Removal: 0
Retrofit Max Percent Difference in Cost: 50
I wouldn't make the Max Percent Diff larger - you'd lose a big part of the balancing factor (time). Rollo, spoon, in general I like this idea, but I think there should be some sort of cost penalty to retrofit. Either "Retrofit Cost Percent For Comps: 110" or "Retrofit Cost Percent For Comp Removal 10".
On the other hand, this whole thing may be a "cat"astrophe. 
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October 29th, 2003, 12:59 PM
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Re: Devnull and Retrofitting
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Originally posted by JLS:
Rollo, I know I see (or told about) changes in the Data after released that I never really recall consciously making, I think it is the family cat walking across the key board.
Think it happens to all of us.
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Well, it is a bit different. I didn't create the mod in the first place. I just did the update for SE4 Gold together with Geoschmo and now doing the maintenance. So, I am not really aware of all the changes in DNM.
Very likely there will be more easter eggs for me and others to discover .
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October 29th, 2003, 01:08 PM
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Re: Devnull and Retrofitting
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Originally posted by spoon:
If you want to make retrofitting cheaper than stock, but not make a loophole that can be exploited as much, the minimum settings I'd use are these:
Retrofit Cost Percent For Comps: 100
Retrofit Cost Percent For Comp Removal: 0
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Quote:
Originally posted by Grandpa Kim:
Rollo, spoon, in general I like this idea, but I think there should be some sort of cost penalty to retrofit. Either "Retrofit Cost Percent For Comps: 110" or "Retrofit Cost Percent For Comp Removal 10"...
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yeah, something like that. I was thinking 110/15 perhaps.
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